Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ping An Good Doctor

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The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:05, 19 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ping An Good Doctor[edit]

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The availabe sources are not meeting the criteria of Reliable Independent sources, thus the page does not meet WP:NCORP and WP:GNG Bash7oven (talk) 17:52, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies and China. Shellwood (talk) 19:05, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.

From Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Publicly traded corporations (my bolding):

There has been considerable discussion over time whether publicly traded corporations, or at least publicly traded corporations listed on major stock exchanges such as the NYSE and other comparable international stock exchanges, are inherently notable. Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in this (or any other) case. However, sufficient independent sources almost always exist for such companies, so that notability can be established using the primary criterion discussed above. Examples of such sources include independent press coverage and analyst reports.

Analyst reports

https://www.marketbeat.com/stocks/OTCMKTS/PANHF/price-target/^{Internet Archive} contains a list of analyst reports available under a paywall:

Date	Brokerage	Action	Rating	Price Target	Upside/Downside on Report Date	Details
11/24/2021	JPMorgan Chase & Co.	Downgrade	Overweight ➝ Underweight			View Rating Details
9/16/2021	The Goldman Sachs Group	Downgrade	Buy ➝ Neutral			View Rating Details

Additional sources

Dhargalkar, Kaustubh (2020). It's Logical: Innovating Profitable Business Models. Thousand Oaks, California: SAGE Publishing. pp. 28–29. ISBN 978-93-5388-401-7. Retrieved 2022-07-01 – via Google Books.
The book notes: "Ping An created an online platform called Good Doctor in August 2014. ... It began as an online service where anyone would get doctor consultations for free. The point to be noted here was that the users of the Good Doctor platform were not Ping An's customers. In April 2015, the company launched the Ping An Good Doctor app. By providing the healthcare services, the platform generated tremendous traction. By December 2018, the app had 265 million registered users with 54.7 million monthly active users (MAU). All these services are offered free to the registered users. ... Ping An has used (is using and will use) the Good Doctor platform to expand its footprint in multiple domains, thus creating revenue streams which they would not have imagined back in 2013. In fact, if you examine the platform closely, you will notice that, on the platform, there are multiple competitors of Ping An's core business. So in effect, every time a competitor makes a sale on the Good Doctor platform, Ping An too makes money in the form of a small commission."
Fleisch, Eligar; Franz, Christoph; Herrmann, Andreas (2021). The Digital Pill: What Everyone Should Know about the Future of Our Healthcare System. Bingley: Emerald Group Publishing. pp. 78–79. ISBN 978-1-78756-676-7. Retrieved 2022-07-01 – via Google Books.
The book notes: "The "One-minute Clinic" referred to by Ms Liu [a resident of the Chinese city of Wuzhen near Shanghai] is the most recent and radical innovation from Chinese health insurance provider Ping An Insurance and its subsidiary Ping An Good Doctor, which was founded in 2015. In essence, the company consists of an app that lets users make an appointment with a doctor. In the case of minor illnesses, a video or phone consultation is also offered. Ping An Good Doctor not only covers the doctor's fee, but also the costs of prescription drugs and treatments. Subscribers also have the option of sharing information with other patients in forums. One particularly lucrative market for Ping An Good Doctor is Chinese citizens who are looking for medical treatment abroad. The company establishes contacts with physicians outside of China and organizes the necessary travel."
Kim, W. Chan; Mauborgne, Renee; Ji, Mi (2021-02-24). "Ping An Good Doctor: Creating a Nondisruptive Solution for China's Healthcare System". Harvard Business Publishing. Archived from the original on 2022-07-01. Retrieved 2022-07-01.
The case study overview notes: "This case describes how the Chinese internet healthcare company Ping An Good Doctor created a nondisruptive solution for addressing a key challenge in China's healthcare industry ..."
Yeung, Karen (2018-01-31). "Ping An's 'Good Doctor' wins Hong Kong IPO approval despite losses". South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 2022-07-01. Retrieved 2022-07-01.
The article notes: "Ping An Healthcare and Technology, China’s largest health care and online medical platform, has been accepted by the Hong Kong stock exchange for an initial public offering (IPO), despite making hefty losses for the past two years. ... Launched in April 2015, Ping An Healthcare offers online medical services and has 192.8 million registered users, with network coverage including 3,100 hospitals and 7,500 pharmacy outlets. It was China’s largest internet health care platform in terms of average monthly active users and daily average online consultations in 2016. ... "
Dunkley, Emma (2022-03-26). "Ping An healthcare unit closes HK's biggest IPO this year". Financial Times. Archived from the original on 2022-03-26. Retrieved 2022-07-01.
The article notes: "Ping An Good Doctor, a Chinese healthcare and technology company, has raised HK$8.77bn (US$1.1bn) in the largest Hong Kong initial public offering this year, the first in a string of large tech listings set to come to the market this year. ... Leon Qi, an analyst at Daiwa, said he was “unsurprised” by the group’s losses given its rapid expansion in recent years in terms of customers acquired and distribution of products."
Staeritz, Felix; Torrence, Simon (2020). Fightback: How to win in the digital economy with platforms, ventures and entrepreneurs. London: LID Publishing. ISBN 978-1-911671-81-7. Retrieved 2022-07-01 – via Google Books.
The book notes: "It has used all this tech prowess to create a range of groundbreaking start-ups, including the world's largest online healthcare platform, Ping An Healthcare and Technology (generally known as Ping An Good Doctor), which provides more than 650,000 consultations a day and is currently valued at $5 billion in its own right. This was a shrewd move, combining technology wit hsocial trends ... which will ensure a constantly increasing demand for medical services. The company's Ping An Good Doctor app handles hospital appointments for 290 million registered users, more than one fifth of the country's population ..."
Schulte, David; Sun, Dean; Shemakov, Roman (2021). The Digital Transformation of Property in Greater China. Singapore: World Scientific. pp. 122, 132. ISBN 978-981-123-379-1. Retrieved 2022-07-01 – via Google Books.
The book notes on page 122: "Ping An Good, a healthcare portal with 30 million-plus monthly active users whose recent IPO raised US$1.1 billion in Hong Kong; and Ping An Healthcare And Technology, a mobile app for booking hospital visits used by 800 million customers across 70% of cities in China."
The book notes on page 132: "Currently Ping An Healthcare and Technology has a 70% share of China's telehealth market. Over the past decade, it has spent more than 20 billion yuan on healthcare technology, and it has pledged to spend another 30 billion yuan in the next five years in light of the ..."
Ng, Eric (2020-02-12). "Ping An Good Doctor, China's largest health care platform, reports jump in users amid coronavirus, smaller than expected annual loss". South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 2020-12-20. Retrieved 2022-07-01.
The article notes: "The company, a five-year-old unit of Chinese giant Ping An Insurance, posted a net loss of 733.86 million yuan (US$105 million) for 2019, down from a loss of 913 million yuan the previous year. It was also lower than the 872 million yuan average loss estimated by nine analysts Bloomberg polled. The analysts expected its pre-tax net loss to narrow to 620 million yuan this year, before it turns a profit of 40.8 million yuan in 2021."

There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Ping An Good Doctor, formerly known as Ping An Healthcare and Technology (Chinese: 平安健康保险股份有限公司) to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".

Cunard (talk) 11:15, 1 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

great analysis @Cunard Morpho achilles (talk) 06:23, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting in light of new sources found, but not added to the article yet.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:52, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep it's notable in medicine sphere. If no one wants to dig deeper, just read the above arguments. It has minimal but at the same time significant coverage in ft, wsj, etc. It was among the largest unicorn startup companies in China, with a valuation of approximately US 7.5 $billion. Further analysis would be helpful here. --2600:2B00:7E53:4300:70DC:432D:1078:93AC (talk) 07:10, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TigerShark (talk) 02:32, 15 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per User:Cunard's sources. And those are just English-language sources – searching in Chinese finds others[1][2]. —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 02:01, 17 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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