Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pilot (CSI)

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The result was Withdrawn -Redfarmer (talk) 01:18, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pilot (CSI)[edit]

Additionally, the following articles are being included for the same reason below:

These articles are all merely synopsises and trivia for each individual episode of the first season of CSI: Crime Scene Investigation with no references or reason for notability. Additionally, there is already a list of season one episodes of CSI here. There's eight seasons worth of these but I'm too tired to do them all at once. Redfarmer (talk) 22:01, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'd tend to swing toward keep on the pilot. I'd suspect that there should be enough external coverage to warrant inclusion. However, I'm not going to go thru each episode listed in this AFD. At this stage, I'd suggest either you become WP:BOLD and redirect each individual episode to the seasonal episode listing (if one exists); or open open discussion on the relevant project. Yng varr 22:20, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all per nom. These are merely plot summaries and don't provide anything useful that isn't already in the list of episodes. JohnCD (talk) 22:46, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep All Per Wikipedia:Television episodes. The action should had taken place here first. Sawblade05 ⁽^{talk to me} ^| ^{my wiki life}⁾ 22:59, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not quite sure what your reasoning behind your keep is. Wikipedia:Television episodes basically says the same thing as I said (and WP:NOT#PLOT says): that television episode articles cannot be merely a retelling of the plot synopsis, which all of these articles are. -- Redfarmer (talk) 23:09, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or redirect Yes, they are only plot, that's because they were made a long time ago, which means there is almost no info available. It's almost imposible to create a production section for each episode (Lost style) because almost every one of them has been shot on a closed set and, because it's not a serial, sources for "reception" sections are very, VERY hard to find (except when something big happens, Ex. Goodbye and Good Luck (CSI episode)) . They are stubs, i agree, but i'm faithfull that someone will eventually buy one of those "making of CSI" books and expand them. You really want to delete 175 CSI articles and discourage this X person that will one day want to expand these articles? because what about ALL of the Seinfeld episode articles then? none of them (see here, here, here) has more than a plot and trivia. Actually, almost every show that i can think of has most of it's episodes in the same state than CSI's (first ones i clicked: Heroes, The Sopranos, The Simpsons). I choose to ignore WP:NOT#PLOT.--Yamanbaiia^{(free hugs!)} 00:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I was really feeling after I made the nomination like I should have posted something first, hence why I posted on Wikiproject. Give me a few minutes and I'll withdraw the nomination. -- Redfarmer (talk) 01:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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