Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Petrelli

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Heroes characters. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:42, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Peter Petrelli[edit]

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Not enough out-of-universe information for a separate article to be needed, or demonstrate notability of the character. Could be merged to List of Heroes characters and/or Heroes (season 1) Indagate (talk) 11:38, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Indagate (talk) 11:38, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:03, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep discussed in scholarly sources including:
- Carol A. Stabile (2009) “Sweetheart, This Ain't Gender Studies”: Sexism and Superheroes, Communication and Critical/Cultural Studies, 6:1, 86-92, DOI: 10.1080/14791420802663686
- Investigating Heroes: Essays on Truth, Justice and Quality TV, Ed. David Simmons. ISBN ‎ 978-0786459360
... and from Google News [1]. Additionally, [2] and [3] provide a bit more, but the first three should be evidence enough that the character can be written about in an encyclopedic manner. Jclemens (talk) 21:35, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The urls don't seem like significant coverage of the character. The screenrant link is duplicated, did you have another? Thanks, Indagate (talk) 14:05, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete or redirect. I checked Stabile's academic article and it totally fails SIGCOV, the character is mentioned there twice in passing the context of having superpowers and being one of Claire protectors, arguably he doesn't even get a sentence dedicated to him! Given this, I am not even going to bother to check other sources listed by Jclemens, as they seem to be simple google hits results and Stabile's article certainly does not provide any "evidence enough that the character can be written about in an encyclopedic manner"; this is a patently false claim and I am very disappointed to see it made here as it casts doubt on any other sources provided by Jclemens. Please provide an analysis of the sources and show us they contain SIGCOV and go beyond a plot summary.

Anyway, the article doesn't contain anything that goes beyond a plot summary, and as such, I recommend that this is redirected to the List of Heroes characters, with no prejudice to this being restored or kept if someone actually writes a proper reception/analysis section. In the current state the article fails GNG, my BEFORE shows some mention of him but someone needs to check whether any meet SIGOV and I am not motivated right now. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:56, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's unfortunate that you seem happy to spend more time to type out excuses why you won't read more than one reference, rather than actually, oh, click through any of them. The second one is particularly interesting, in that it's a book about Heroes and Petrelli is mentioned in multiple sections. But seriously, I appreciate your honesty that your opinion here is intentionally under-informed due to your own lack of effort. Jclemens (talk) 09:54, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Unless you provide quotes here to justify your claims about a source you didn't even link to an accessible repository, I am not inclined any longer to take your word for whatever claims about significant coverage you want to make. I am sorry, but you've lost my trust. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:37, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Would you like me to read the various passages to you on a WhatsApp recording, so you don't even have to search in Google Books for a book where I clearly posted the ISBN? Jclemens (talk) 00:54, 11 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nah, please just quote the passages here. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:17, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. I reviewed the sources provided, and did my own search. There is a lot of plot summary, and some passing character analysis, but most of what I'm seeing is material that is analyzing the series, not the character, and as such belongs in the parent article. I see no justification at all for a standalone. I also do not consider ScreenRant a good source for this type of article. They're known for producing any number of listicles that are regurgitated plot summaries; these add nothing to our understanding of the topic, and are useless for determining due weight. Vanamonde (Talk) 18:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:50, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, these are passing mentions. Redirect is my call here. Oaktree b (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect is the right call. Only WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs in the sources, which focuses more on the series. Shooterwalker (talk) 19:27, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect Given the sourcing situation, clearly this character is better described in a more limited summary in the article for the narrative work itself. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 15:25, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.