Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peralummoottil family

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Kurykh (talk) 21:43, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Peralummoottil family[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. The entire article is about the history of Saint Thomas Christians in India. Part of a plethora of family articles on Wikipedia which uses the same strategy of highlighting the actual family history at the end using their family websites. This article also talks about the history of Christianity in Kerala using many reputed sources, but slips in their family website in the end, to put in some details about their purported history as well. Jupitus Smart 14:27, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:23, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:23, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:23, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~Comment~~ - Parts of it seem to be decently referenced and encyclopedia-worthy. However, these are not the parts that have anything to do with the namespace. If we already have have an article on this India Syriac Christian community, then I would suggest merging the relevant material into that article and delete the rest, because I see no indication the family is notable. If we don't, then rename this article to something having to do with the religious community and pare down the references to this one family. Either way, I don't see much need for the redirect from the current namespace.Agricolae (talk) 15:56, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Changed mind to Delete - If as Jupitus says the good (general, non-family) parts were taken from existing articles, then there is nothing here worth preserving. I don't see anything about the family themselves that makes them notable. Agricolae (talk) 02:44, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For the fact there are detailed articles on Christianity in Kerala and its various sub branches. The current article in question is however not a community but a family, who happen to be Christians. Merging/Redirecting/Changing the name of the article into one of the sub sects of Christianity in Kerala (probably Syro-Malabar Catholic Church, the sub sect of the church followed by the said family, based on my reading) is not required as the article in question has copied and re-worded the encyclopedia worthy parts from the articles on Christianity in Kerala and its various sub sects.Jupitus Smart 05:01, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- The parts of the article that are adequately referenced are about Mar Thomas Christians generally. There is little in this about the family, of which little shows them notable. Unless the article is altered substantially to make it about the family, and shows they are notable, we cannot keep it. TNT is appropriate. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:21, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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