Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penang Monorail

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Spartaz ^Humbug! 05:59, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Penang Monorail

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This proposed Monorail project has been perpetually placed on hold since 2008. To this day, it never got off the ground. As there are no plans to date to revive the project itself, this article is rendered obsolete and irrelevant. Vnonymous (talk) 05:04, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

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Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 08:09, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 08:09, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:10, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

• Keep The article passes the usual bar of inclusion, WP:GNG, additionally planned rail systems are usually kept if they pass GNG, and of course notability is not temporary. On top of that seeing as the project is still a part of the Penang Master Plan on Transportation from 2016 [1] and is still talked about in the press [2] and is still having political consequences [3] I think the article should be kept. Winner 42 Talk to me! 19:03, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Comment The Penang Transport Master Plan (PTMP) from 2016 is not a continuation of the previous monorail project, and neither did the monorail project ended up being subsumed as part of the newer PTMP. The reasons are as follows.

• The earlier monorail project consisted of two lines, both of which had different alignments when compared to the newer PTMP. For example, the earlier monorail plan included a line from Tanjung Tokong to the Penang International Airport via Air Itam. The PTMP diverges significantly from the original monorail route, proposing instead two monorail lines originating from George Town - one to Air Itam and another to Tanjung Tokong. Refer to the earlier monorail route map here and the PTMP monorail routes here.
• The earlier monorail project had been mooted (and was subsequently put on hold for an indefinite amount of time) by the Malaysian federal government. On the other hand, the PTMP was drafted by the Penang state government.
• This article also stated that the monorail project was tendered to Malaysian Resources Corporation Berhad, whereas the PTMP will be implemented by SRS Consortium.

In fact, the assertion that the monorail project still carries political consequences does not hold much water here. The monorail project had been mooted by the Barisan Nasional-led federal government at the time. The news report which alluded to the political consequences actually quoted a Barisan Nasional (BN) election candidate. As we all know, BN was trounced in both the state and federal-level election last month. What is the impact of that BN candidate's statement then, if I may ask? How the monorail project still carries political consequences is also beyond me, when there has been an absence of notable sources which support this assertion. Vnonymous (talk) 13:58, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Vnonymous, I was confused about the status of the monorail project and how it related to the current plan. Thanks for setting me straight. Delete per Vnonymous with no prejudice against recreating an article under this title if a different Penang Monorail ever actually happens. Winner 42 Talk to me! 16:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

• Delete because the project is not alive and the subject is not notable. All we have are routine mentions in a few domestic papers. -The Gnome (talk) 19:04, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
• Delete and I agree with Vnonymous on this issue. The proposed monorail has seen no progress in the past 10 years. With the overthrow of the BN government, it is very unlikely the monorail will see the light at the end of the tunnel for another five years (as the maximum tenure of the Malaysian government is five years). Semi-auto (talk) 22:21, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.