Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pay Phone (Edson Song)

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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 15:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pay Phone (Edson Song)[edit]

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Borderline A9, but does not qualify in my mind since it has alleged chart hits. I am unable to verify these chart hits. In any event does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Singles or GNG. With the exception of a YouTube channel with 31 subscribers, I have found little on "Pay Phone" (by Edson) when searching for sources. Eostrix (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 12:02, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 12:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 12:28, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have tagged the article for speedy deletion as a hoax given that this song never actually has been charted and that the article creator manipulated links to look like Billboard had charted the song. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:27, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I have removed the G3 tag because the article is not a blatant hoax - in other words, there actually is such a song. Other deletion criteria may apply. -- MelanieN (talk) 21:09, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In that case then Delete. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:08, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete: Per G3. If it is not a hoax, then it fails WP:NMUSIC. The "cover art" just looks somebody put text over a stock image of a woman talking on a pay phone, so I tagged that with speedy deletion. SuperGoose007 ^(Honk!) 18:29, 7 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It certainly should be deleted, however the song does exist on YouTube: [1] (157 views), [2] (313 views), [3] (149 views), as well as Apple Music, Spotify, and few other sites (see external links in the article). So while elements in the article fail verification (the charts), the existence of this song itself is not a hoax. So this is not a G3, and due to non-verifiable content it is not an A9. It would be nice if there were speedy deletion criteria for such obvious cases as this song (where the non-verifiable content precludes an A9), but that is a matter of wider policy.--Eostrix (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 06:21, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: fails WP:NSONG. Eostrix is correct, this doesn't qualify for a speedy deletion per G3 because the song definitely exists – however, there is absolutely no indication that it is notable in any way. The chart positions are definitely all fake – the "year-end chart" was supposedly accessed four months before the chart was published, and the year-end chart is only a top 50 anyway. Richard3120 (talk) 15:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The song may exist, but any claims of notability (chart positions) fails verification. -- Whpq (talk) 20:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - It's not hoax but likely fails verification and WP:NSONG. ~ Junior5a (Talk) Cont 16:43, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.