Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pautalia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:23, 28 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pautalia[edit]

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Poorly sourced Content Fork which is dealt with at the original redirect target Kyustendil and in History of Kyustendil. Restoration of the redirect as alternative to deletion is acceptable. Polyamorph (talk) 21:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:25, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bulgaria-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:25, 13 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep -- It is not necessarily appropriate to merge an ancient city with a modern one, when there is no obvious continuity (gap of 500 years in history) and a different name. I recall a case of Greek city in Asia Minor that some one wanted to merge with is modern Turkish near successor. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:11, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and stubify: WP:GEOLAND is met per WP:NOTTEMP; the only thing is this article is very poorly written. Best case would be stubify and improve from there. Curbon7 (talk) 06:07, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Curbon7 (talk) 06:08, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:17, 21 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep - I've listed below some literature studying aspects of Pautalia, such as its coins and urban development (both mentioned in the WP article). The article is poorly written in its current state, but it could stubified now and rewritten with proper sourcing, as Curbon7 said. Bridget (talk) 19:10, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Found sources - Bridget (talk) 19:10, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

English translations are taken from the original articles.

Slokoska, L. R. (1989). Pautalia I: The Topography, Urban Development and Fortifications. Sofia: Bulgarian Academy of Sciences.
- Poulter, A. G. (1994). "Review". Britannia. 25: 343. doi:10.2307/527027.
"PAUTALIA (Kyustendil) W Bulgaria.". The Princeton Encyclopedia of Classical Sites.
Grozdanova, Lily (2016). Delev, Peter (ed.). "Градският пантеон на Пауталия в светлината на монетосеченето на полиса – някои основни наблюдения" [The city Pantheon of Pautalia in the light of the polis’ coinage – some basic observations]. ΣΥΜΠΟΣΙΟΝ (in Russian). Sofia: St. Kliment Ohridski University Press: 136–147. ISBN 978-954-07-4158-1. Topoi entry.
Sokolowski, Franciszek (1970). "Loi sacrée de Pautalia". Bulletin de correspondance hellénique (in French). 94 (1): 113–116. doi:10.3406/bch.1970.2170.
Filipova, S.S. (2018). "Монеты из раскопок античной Пауталии (современный Кюстендил)" [Coins from Archeological Researches of Ancient Pautalia (Today Kyustendil)]. Materials in Archaeology & History of Ancient & Medieval Crimea (in Russian) (10): 415–435. doi:10.24411/2219-8857-2018-00018.

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