Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paulius Janušauskas

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The result was delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:14, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Paulius Janušauskas[edit]

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Recreation of an article previously deleted by PROD. Concern was Unreferenced BLP. Does not meet WP:ATHLETE notability guidelines. Lithuania league is not fully professional according to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. While the article is no longer unsourced, the notability concerns remain valid. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:48, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep there are a lot of coverage plus he plays in first fully professional league of a state, so the article does pass WP:NFOOTBALL and GNG. Alex^{discussion ★} 16:51, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete doesn't appear to play in a fully professional league, fails WP:NFOOTBALL and GNG as there's no significant media coverage. Alex^{discussion ★} 09:00, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you back any of this up with sources? WP:FPL list the Lithuanian A Lyga as not fully pro, and the one source listed is unreliable, to say nothing of significance. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:53, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

- Here are some of the examples of media coverage: [1] [2] [3] [4]. Alex^{discussion ★} 16:54, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - PS There's a citation from the article A Lyga: The A Lyga (English: The A League), currently also known as SMScredit.lt A Lyga for sponsoring purposes, is the top division of professional football in Lithuania. Alex^{discussion ★} 16:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. There is no evidence that the A Lyga is fully professional, or that this player has received significant media coverage. GiantSnowman 18:35, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- @GiantSnowman: A Lyga is the highest pro league of Lithuania. [5] [6] FIFA Alex^{discussion ★} 21:37, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  - For starters, these sources don't really confirm anything useful. That the A Lyga is the Lithuanian top flight is not in dispute, but that does not necessarily mean that it is fully pro (hence the "Top level leagues which are not fully professional" section at WP:FPL). Furthermore, for notability purposes professional does not mean the same thing as fully professional. While there are undoubtedly professionals playing in the A Lyga (ergo the league is professional), there are a significant number part-time footballers who also work day jobs playing there (meaning the league is not fully professional). Sir Sputnik (talk) 22:11, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - issue isn't whether or not A Lyga is fully professional but whether Žalgiris Vilnius is fully professional. And I believe it is. WP:FOOTYN requires team to be professional, not league. Nfitz (talk) 03:57, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nfitz does not understand WP:NFOOTY, which states that a player must have played in "a fully professional league", not for a fully-professional club. The Lithuanian league is not fully professional, so he fails it. Number 57 23:32, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I understend WP:NFOOTY perfectly well. However when I made my comment, WP:FOOTY referenced WP:FOOTYN not WP:NFOOTY. Once again the goalpost has been moved .... Nfitz (talk) 01:52, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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