Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Paul Corbet-Singleton

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The result was delete. PhilKnight (talk) 00:45, 11 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Corbet-Singleton[edit]

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Contested prod. I'm proposing the deletion of articles about an Australian author and his novels because there is no evidence that he is notable enough to have his own encyclopaedia article (no prizes, no significant critical attention, etc). He fails WP:AUTHOR and his books fail WP:NBOOK (no awards, no significant critical attention etc). andy (talk) 23:27, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

All true enough. He's not notable. However, he's verifiable, which means that the guidelines direct us to exhaust the alternatives to deletion before we can recommend that the closing administrator turns this into a redlink. In this case there is a reasonable alternative: Redirect to List of Australian novelists.—S Marshall T/C 23:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, but the author objects to downgrading the articles saying things like "Why does Emily Bronte, who wrote a grand total of ONE novel, deserve a page on here more than this author?" and "This is a full-length, legitimate, published novel. It deserves a page in an encyclopedia just as much as any other novel, regardless of its level of publicity". andy (talk) 23:41, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then let him state his objections here for the AfD closer to evaluate. He's allowed to have his say!—S Marshall T/C 23:50, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. —Grahame (talk) 00:49, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. -- Jujutacular ^talk 01:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: No evidence that he passes WP:AUTHOR or WP:NBOOK. That being said, my preemptive answer to the article's creator is that Wikipedia, like every other encyclopedia, has standards for verifiability and inclusion, and he's more than welcome to (a) go to the relevant policies and guidelines on Wikipedia and make his case for why this unknown author is more deserving than, say, Emily Bronte; or (b) plead a similar case to the folks at Britannica. Ravenswing 15:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Emily Brontë has whole books written about her, as can be seen from Emily Brontë#Further reading for starters (and any good book catalogue, which will turn up additional ones, such as the one by Agnes Mary Frances Robinson). This person has, as far as I can find, not been the subject of even one biography anywhere. The one source cited that looks biographical appears to actually be the potted autobiography from the book's blurb. No independent sources exist at all. There are no independent sources telling us that this person is an Australian novelist. Delete. Uncle G (talk) 13:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We can prove he's an Australian novelist by reference to the National Library of Australia (here). (Okay, at a hair-splitting level, it technically shows that he's a novelist published in Australia.)—S Marshall T/C 16:10, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody has denied that he's an Australian novelist. It would indeed be a strange thing to lie about. What's denied is that he's a notable novelist (Australian or otherwise). andy (talk) 22:53, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

... which is exactly what I said right at the start of this debate. :)—S Marshall T/C 23:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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