Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Boivin

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The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:01, 28 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Boivin[edit]

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BEFORE does not show any secondary sources discussing subject. Nothing in article shows meeting WP:GNG or WP:NPERSON Slywriter (talk) 02:00, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, Comics and animation, and Canada. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 03:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Better sourcing in the French article, it says he won a Prix Gemeaux (the French version of the Gemini Awards) as a director (?), based on my quick translation. [1] So their website has no listing for 2003 (A venir, basically a work in progress). We'd likely have to look into off-line paper sources. I think he won as part of the creative team for the TV show, not sure he's notable by himself. Oaktree b (talk) 20:17, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Found some newspaper material that could be SIGCOV but nothing on the Gémeaux:^[1]^[2] Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:07, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Free to film their story, free to upload to YouTube: Montrealers' movie gets a worldwide platform". The Gazette. Montreal, Quebec, Canada. September 28, 2011. p. C6. Retrieved April 22, 2022 – via Newspapers.com.
^ "Iron Baby video goes viral". Red Deer Advocate. Red Deer, Alberta, Canada. Canadian Press. June 4, 2010. p. D5. Retrieved April 22, 2022 – via Newspapers.com.

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Quebec-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:45, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep How did a BEFORE not find any secondary sources? I'm finding stuff just using his name in a search, such as La Presse ([2]), Toronto Star (ProQuest 357119310), CBC Television's The National (ProQuest 357283284, and L'actualité (ProQuest 221111705) - which mentions at least one Gemini). And then there's the 2 references User:Sammi Brie lists above - neither of which popped up near the top of the first of 36 pages in the Proquest search I did. Perhaps User:Slywriter can withdraw this. Nfitz (talk) 20:01, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It so happens that ProQuest's Canada material and Newspapers.com don't overlap much, so I couldn't turn up any of that. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 20:23, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Newspapers.com doesn't do well for non-English sources, User:Sammi Brie. Need something else for Quebec subjects. Every regular editor has Proquest (and more) access through Wikipedia Library. Nfitz (talk) 15:39, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

ProQuest isn't always great for non-English sources either, to be honest. It does sometimes have some fairly random hits from L'actualité, but doesn't officially list that as a publication contained in its database if I check the list of publications, and I can sometimes (but not reliably) find French wire service articles from Canadian Press and transcripts of the anchor portion (but not the individual hits of reportage) from Le Téléjournal, but I have never once found a bylined staff report from any francophone Quebec newspaper in Canadian Newsstream. When I need francophone sourcing for a Quebec topic, rather, I do check ProQuest just in case, but rely much more on Érudit and/or the search function on the Le Devoir website (which is where I was actually able to retrieve the source for Boivin's Jutra nomination.) Bearcat (talk) 15:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Article does certainly need referencing improvement, but in addition to the Gémeaux he also has a Jutra Award nomination for Best Live Action Short Film (2006) under his belt for his short film Radio, and as noted by other commenters better sources do exist to fix the article with. The problem finding sourcing for his Gémeaux win may come down to the fact that he directed Phylactère Cola under the pseudonym "Psychopat" rather than as "Patrick Boivin", so try searching under "Psychopat" as well. Bearcat (talk) 21:34, 23 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I've added several footnotes to the article, and cleaned up any remaining advertorialism (which was actually quite limited). Bearcat (talk) 00:52, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

[Gaze110928-1] "Free to film their story, free to upload to YouTube: Montrealers' movie gets a worldwide platform". The Gazette. Montreal, Quebec, Canada. September 28, 2011. p. C6. Retrieved April 22, 2022 – via Newspapers.com.

[RedD100604-2] "Iron Baby video goes viral". Red Deer Advocate. Red Deer, Alberta, Canada. Canadian Press. June 4, 2010. p. D5. Retrieved April 22, 2022 – via Newspapers.com.

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