Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parkchester Department of Public Safety

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Parkchester, Bronx. Sourced content can be merged from page history. ansh666 05:22, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Parkchester Department of Public Safety[edit]

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Fails WP:ORG and WP:GNG. Having limited police powers does not make a security guard a cop, and even if it did, being a police department is not inherently notable. If their is discussion in NYPD's article about private agencies with policing powers in their jurisdiction, a redirect may be appropriate. John from Idegon (talk) 00:38, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:47, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:47, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:47, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:47, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Subject fails NCORP and GNG. Doing a BEFORE search, after eliminating SPS stuff, I'm left with a brief mention here, this ROUTINE mention, and this suit. It's not enough for notability. Chris Troutman (talk) 00:52, 14 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • REDIRECT - to the page about the jurisdiction. The agency is not notable enough to justify an article. Acnetj (talk) 00:34, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment - its jurisdiction is a non notable apartment complex, Acnetj. What would you have it redirect to? John from Idegon (talk) 04:02, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment - Here: Parkchester, Bronx. There's already a section with a link. Get rid of link and expand it a little bit. Acnetj (talk) 04:38, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        • What is your justification for that, Acnetj? Parkchester is NOT this organization's jurisdiction. One private housing development in Parkchester, which also includes public housing, commercial property and other housing, is their jurisdiction. This is NOT a police department, but a security department of a business that has some police powers. To redirect this to the article on Parkchester makes about as much sense as redirecting an article on say the Sturgis, Michigan police department to the article on the state of Michigan. John from Idegon (talk) 05:11, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect and selective merge to Parkchester, Bronx, a large residential community within New York City. Sources appear to be insufficient to support independent notability.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:43, 15 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: While I can understand WP:CHEAP in some cases, I'm not really seeing it here. I did a bit of cleanup and tried a little WP:BEFORE as well, but I'm not finding anything other than WP:PRIMARY and lacking the WP:ORGDEPTH required for organizations such as this. The organization exists, so it probably can be sufficiently sourced to be mentioned in Parkchester article, but that's about it. Not sure if there's even enough here for a acceptable stub since pretty much all of the content is unsourced and too excessively detailed per WP:NOTEVERYTHING. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:33, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and Redirect to Parkchester, Bronx. Perfectly reasonable solution. Better than losing information. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:41, 18 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Selective merge to Parkchester, Bronx. Most of the stuff in this article is pure trivia and should be dropped; things like what kinds of cars they drive and what the uniform insignia looks like. To avoid WP:UNDUE, I would guess we need to bring over no more than one or two paragraphs. Cherry-pick the most significant items from the lede and history sections, maybe mention that they have to pass the New York State Peace Officer Training Course, and that they carry handguns. Maybe the death of Albert Acosta. That's it. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:06, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.