Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parichay (song)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was procedural close with a redirect of the song article to singer Ikka Singh. This appears to be the nominator's intention before erroneously nominating the previous redirect for deletion. Meanwhile this AfD has shown some disagreement about where to redirect, with some unsubstantiated accusations of vandalism. That can be ironed out elsewhere under the appropriate procedures. (non-admin closure) DOOMSDAYER520 | TALK | CONTRIBS 20:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Parichay (song)[edit]

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Page empty Ankit (Talk with me) 08:14, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Ankit (Talk with me) 08:14, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Procedural close: the page is empty because you removed a perfectly acceptable redirect, and then replaced the contents with the AfD notice. This isn't how AfD works. If you think the redirect was pointing to the wrong article, you should have either boldly redirected it to a more appropriate article or taken it to WP:RFD. Richard3120 (talk) 20:40, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard3120: I understand that this was an inappropriate edit, please guide me through the right procedure. There is no article that this article could be redirected to, perhaps this article could be saved by adding well sourced and referencd content.Ankit (Talk with me) 22:28, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What was wrong with keeping the original redirect, which was to the article of the ~~singer~~ writer of this song, and which mentions this song in that article? Richard3120 (talk) 22:31, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the redirect was misleading. Suppose you are reading the article of singer of the song and you click on the wikilink of the article of the song and you are again redirect to the same page that you were before, wouldn't it feel wrong.Ankit (Talk with me) 22:39, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard3120: Furthermore I don't think that the said article meets WP:NSONG criteria.Ankit (Talk with me) 23:01, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Then all it needed was to remove the link from the singer's article. And I agree it doesn't meet WP:NSONG, that's why it was redirected in the first place... usually if there is an album or an artist's article to redirect to, that option is preferred to outright deletion. Richard3120 (talk) 23:05, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard3120:Then I think a more appropriate redirect page would be Ikka Singh. Thank you for your patience, can you please tell what should be done nw.Ankit (Talk with me) 23:16, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think you are correct, Ikka Singh was actually the singer, Amit Bhadana was the co-writer and producer. So we will wait and see if any other editor has a comment or suggestion to make... then perhaps you would like to withdraw the nomination by stating below that you would like to withdraw it, then the administrator will close this discussion, and then the page can be changed as necessary... it's not a good idea to make any changes to the "Parichay" page right now while it still has the AfD notice on it, we should wait until this discussion is closed. Richard3120 (talk) 01:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 20:41, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 20:42, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Totally wrong way of intiating an AfD discussion. But, at the same time the redirected page is linked to a youtuber page... which itself facing a WP:COI tag. Whatsoever it is... a piece of advice for Ankit2299: your cross-wiki editing is extremely random and without any objective (just checked your English and Hindi Wikipedia contributions) - either you are trying to rake editing points or something else. Please read the rules of AfDs/CSDs properly and if you have doubts, then engage with more experienced editor(s) in a constructive manner. Your current approach might be considered as an act of vandalism. - Hatchens (talk) 06:06, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Richard3120 for taking an intiative to guide Ankit2299. - Hatchens (talk) 06:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hatchens Thank you for your advice, but please clarify whether it is my current approach to AfD or my editing the Wikipedia in general that might be considered as vandalism.Ankit (Talk with me) 08:49, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Ankit2299, let me invite you to my user talk page. We can discuss this over there. As far this Afd is concerned... your intent is good but approach is wrong and it happens. Let's not divert the AfD discussion. Our conversation might confuse others. - Hatchens (talk) 03:45, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Ikka Singh. This seems to be what the nominator intended before committing some procedural errors. The song was deemed non-notable several months ago and the article was redirected to the songwriter's page. If that was inappropriate, just re-redirect as needed. DOOMSDAYER520 | TALK | CONTRIBS 16:31, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
comment what is this ??Ankit, this is not the correct way to nominate any article for afd please go through our guidelines, look...when any topic or entity related to a notable article is non-notable, we prefer a soft redirect to the main subject(in case the second topic has somehow a wiki page).... Kindly look at some example...Riyaz Aly which is famous tiktok artist but yet not notable enough, we prefer here a redirect to tiktok related subject and also look this Heena Shahab Wife of criminal politician Mohammad Shahabuddin, we again prefer here a redirect to his husband because his wife is not notable (yet) but is relates to main subject as his wife, so please before going to start a afd just go through our guidelines, I think Afds are serious discussion so please just get out of such vandal type edits.27.61.65.126 (talk) 19:33, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Kindly note, this IP address - 27.61.65.126 has been blocked in the past. To learn more about this, click here. - Hatchens (talk) 03:49, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No need of Redirect every thing is fine till nominator's edit just revert his edit, the redirected article i.e to Amit Bhadana is absolutely right, for non-indians I suggest you guys to go and search for parichay song on web you literally got all results related only to Amit Bhadana. I said this because in India everyone is familiar or know this song is related to Amit. or you can easily ping any Indian contributor. Thanks27.61.65.126 (talk) 19:41, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.