Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pammi Sai

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The result was delete. ✗plicit 13:10, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Pammi Sai[edit]

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Bit part actor who doesn't meet the requirements of WP:NACTOR. No significant role in any film they appeared in. Does not meet WP:GNG either due to lack of independent reliable sources.

Nothing significant found in WP:BEFORE search in both English and Telugu. -- Ab207 (talk) 12:13, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Actors and filmmakers, India, and Andhra Pradesh. Ab207 (talk) 12:13, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ab207,

he is an Telugu movies comedian. Though in Bheemla Nayak movie, The film stars Pawan Kalyan and Rana Daggubati were in lead roles, Pammi Sai also played a significant role. That's mentioned on Business Today (India). He is also a famous comedian. That can be found in Telugu TV channels as well. So the article should be existed as I think.~ AbuSayeed (talk) 13:40, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ab207, If he has no any significant role, how there's an IMDb page with his name. Currently he has been featured in latest TV episode of reputed channel ETV in Telugu.

Besides his name and fame in Telugu, Sai is also entertaining in Tamil [1].~ AbuSayeed (talk) 14:16, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. "Go to guy for one scene cameos" doesn't seem notable. If he has a important role in Vaathi/Sir, then he will need more such roles to be notable. Also doubtful is how did you know what roles he played in other films, is it copied from IMDB? DareshMohan (talk) 15:40, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@DareshMohan @Ab207 Hey Guys, I am an ardent fan of Trivikram Srinivas and hence decided to write an article on Pammi Sai as he was featured in almost of all of Trivikram's movies right from Athadu. Moreover, he is playing significant roles in Telugu Movies from last few years. He has more than 15 mins dedicated runtime in Varudu Kaavalenu (2021) for his comedy track and got great accolades as its on similar lines of Jandhyala Comedy. It's not a joke to have over 10 mins of runtime in Power Star Pawan Kalyan's Movie, but he had such a significant role in Bheemla Nayak where there was a face off between him and Rana Daggubati at Police Station. That's not it, he is all along Rao Ramesh as his associate and he brings in the crucial conflict in Samantha Ruth Prabhu, Nithiin starrer A Aa movie. The list goes on and on and I am surprised many junior artists are having a wikipedia page but not a page on him despite being featured in many roles which are being used as memes in Telugu Social Media Pages. Recently he is acting along side Dhanush in a bi-lingual film Vaathi and I have already indexed the website article as citation. Also he has an IMDB page and will also be seen in this week's Suma Kanakala's Cash Episode in ETV (Telugu). If you want I'll link the episode Promo which is on You Tube.

Just because @DareshMohan is not aware of him, it doesn't mean his filmography is doubtful or he didn't had any significant roles. I will share the timestamps in the movies where he is in, you can watch in OTT. No personal abuses please. Azure.Yash (talk) 15:50, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, well if that is the case, at least improve the sources in the article. I will try to find some. DareshMohan (talk) 15:53, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@DareshMohan Hey buddy, Here's the ETV Telugu Cash Promo [2] that I was referring to in my earlier reply. So, do you think a prestigious channel like ETV will bring on some random guy to their show? And yeah, thanks for chipping in to improve the article. Cheers! Azure.Yash (talk) 16:06, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say all ETV does is to bring C-list celebs on their shows who don't merit Wikipedia articles. So let's not make any assumptions without actual reliable sources like newspapers, magazines etc. -- Ab207 (talk) 17:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ab207 I understand about the C-list/influencers you are referring, who are part of other drama shows. But the context of this [3] is entirely different as it has hero, heroine and character artists on this episode to represent their movie. I have added few other reference links from TeluguFilmNagar, Zee Cinemalu [Owned by Zee Telugu] Gulte, Tupaki which are authentic in Telugu regional media. I'll look into news paper articles and will index them. Azure.Yash (talk) 18:23, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly....This is what I meant to say. For example, the article of Nirupam Paritala of Karthika Deepam was also deleted many times, as there are not many reliable sources mentioning his work. Gulte and Tupaki are not considered reliable under wikipedia guidelines, try to understand. Ab207 this is surely a waste of time discussing such deletions when the article clearly does not clearly meet the criteria....Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 5:57, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

@Jayanthkumar123 I don't know if you misread it or something, I told you am a fan of Trivikram and not the one we are discussing about. It's just that he appear in all Trivikram films. And I didn't get your point of not even a single reliable one? He has been credited in Indian Express [4] as part of Bheemla Nayak cast and Bhaamakalapam (film) cast[5]. I have added TV Serial videos which have been telecasted in Star Maa & Zee Telugu. Also there is a recent article in renowned website about him playing an important role in Dhanush's bilingual Vaathi aka Sir [6]. I am not sure if you are into Telugu Movies, You will get to know that these quoted references are from authentic telugu media websites. So, I thought why can't we create a person who acted in more than 35-40 films (few significant/praise worthy roles) a dedicated article and created it but its not out of fanism or something. Azure.Yash (talk) 18:44, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As you are not aware of the basic criteria to create an article about a person, I have mentioned them. I haven't misread or something and I completely understand your point. The point here is not to give credits along with another cast, the person should have a separate dedicated article solely about his/her work. If not the entire article at least a major part of the article should be about his work. If giving credit the main reason, then there are thousands of articles where they mention every actor who has worked in the film. Also, appearing in TV serials is a weak reason. In that case, there are many Telugu TV actors who don't have articles, because they don't have significant media coverage (here coverage indicates independent reliable sources)....Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 5:51, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

Delete per nom. The actor might do significant roles, but as per the rules and regulations of Wikipedia, the sources must be independently reliable ones. In this case, there is not even a single reliable one. Every actor cannot have an article until and unless he has significant or minimum coverage by independent reliable sources. Azure.Yash just because you are fan of somebody, you cannot create an article unless you pass the above-mentioned criteria...Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 4:26, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.