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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Stifle (talk) 22:09, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pam Royle[edit]

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Biography/CV of newsreader on a British local TV station, listing her previous jobs. References are a list of presenters and a news report from a year ago of an occasion when her colleague was sick, on air but not on camera, and she had to take over from him. I don't think notability is established to the standard that WP:ENTERTAINER requires for "television personalities." JohnCD (talk) 20:01, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete as failing WP:N and WP:ENTERTAINER. How exciting, an AfD from my area! But yeah, this article does sell her quite well, but there aren't any reliable sources which cover her in-depth (and she really isn't very big). A non-notable local news presenter. – Toon(talk) 20:18, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Change to Keep - as Smile a While has demonstrated at least some significant coverage, and Wikipedia is not paper - I think this article is a positive. Nice work Smile. – Toon(talk) 20:15, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep; multiple, non-trivial coverage, for example [1], [2], [3]. Also quoted in her union role [4]. As a regional TV celeb and deputy Lieutenant of County Durham [5], its probably just enough. Smile a While (talk) 01:37, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment - is source 1 a reliable source, as required by WP:N? It's impossible to even assert whether source 3 is even talking about wor Pam - the fact that it's title is Pam Royle (Business) indicates that it's not - all the content I can see is "Pam Royle, who often filled ..." - and the fourth source is definitely a trivial mention - only one sentence in a decent-sized article. I'm unsure as to whether she is notable enough, but I'll strike my "delete" until I'm sure. – Toon(talk) 19:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment - source 3 is certainly about this Pam Royle as you can see from here, 7th item down. Smile a While (talk) 21:18, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
        • Comment apologies, but the 7th item down for me is this one - which is different from source three above, and I can't find that article anywhere on the list... :S – Toon(talk) 18:44, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          • Comment - G pages are dynamic - at the moment it is here, item 8. But you may need to go back or forward a page if it moves again.
This is the G content;

" Pam Royle.(Business) - The Journal (Newcastle, England) - HighBeam... Subscription - The Journal - HighBeam Research - May 27, 2004 Pam Royle, who often filled in for Mike Neville on North-East Tonight in the late 90s, could also be seen on Tyne Tees in the early 80s, ... " Smile a While (talk) 19:32, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - sorry, but I beg to differ - Transdiffusion is both reliable and the article is non-trivial. Smile a While (talk) 19:40, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I think sufficient coverage in reliable sources has been shown to exist above to establish notability. Davewild (talk) 18:31, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Enough coverage in reliable secondary sources [6] to establish notability. RMHED (talk) 20:52, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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