Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pahoran

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pahoran[edit]

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18 years with only primary sources. This character isn't notable and should be redirected Big Money Threepwood (talk) 18:19, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Mythology-related deletion discussions. Big Money Threepwood (talk) 18:19, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex (talk) 19:13, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Latter Day Saints-related deletion discussions. Skynxnex (talk) 19:40, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I really don't have any stakes in this. I've just been using some of these AFD discussions to hone my source-hunting skills. There are some sources that pretty directly discuss Pahoran. The best-quality ones are in periodicals published by the BYU Religious Studies Center: Religious Educator and the BYU Studies Quarterly, for example. They're intended as scholarly literature, but written by members of the religion about a topic in that religion. I'm not sure whether those would be considered independent sources? Lubal (talk) 21:31, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If these authors publish anything not in line with official dogma, they will lose their employment and in some cases membership to the church. It doesn't seem like people outside of the LDS-sphere have taken time to write anything substantial yet - implying its notability may not be established yet. Big Money Threepwood (talk) 01:50, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, I can't find significant independent coverage of any of the *three* topics covered by this page (Pahoran, Pahoran Jr, and King-men). The article as is isn't much more than a narrative aid to Book of Alma, doesn't seem like there's anything which suggests that there is a stand alone topic here. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 22:39, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.