Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxford University Cave Club (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. A merge would be too messy, and nobody has really provided evidence of notability. If someone wants to create a "List of Oxford clubs" article or some such, they can message me for the article text.--Wafulz 03:19, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford University Cave Club[edit]

Renomination after the previous AFD was closed as keep. However, I don't see that it meets the standards of WP:ORG. There was nothing in the AFD that indicated individual notability of this club, and there are still no references. FrozenPurpleCube 19:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - the University of Oxford's review for 2001-2 says that "The Oxford University Cave Club is one of the leading speleology clubs in the country". I couldn't confirm that elsewhere, but didn't look very hard. I did find this - a history of a century of British caving. What might be more interesting is to have an article about the British Speleological Association. I wonder if I can start a trend of getting AfD vote deleters to give examples of what would warrant an article, instead of just voting delete? Carcharoth 21:42, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, what the University of Oxford says about its own clubs is hardly a third-party source, so I don't think that gets past the notability concern. And I suppose there could be a national organization that merits its own article, but this isn't the place to decide that. BTW, AFD=!votes. FrozenPurpleCube 22:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but I prefer to discuss until I've made up my mind. Sometimes I never do make up my mind. Carcharoth 22:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to University of Oxford#Clubs and societies, in abridged form. See also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oxford University Asia-Pacific Society. --B. Wolterding 07:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 09:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as unsourced and failing WP:V unless the new page University of Oxford Clubs is created by the end of the AfD. A merge to the main article looks messy and a merge to a non-existent page would be tricky :-) The material can be added to a user sandbox and merged later if required. Bridgeplayer 18:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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