Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Operation: Z.E.R.O.

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Canley (talk) 06:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Operation: Z.E.R.O.[edit]

This TV movie does not establish notability through the inclusion of real world information from reliable sources. Most of the information is original research and unnecessary plot details. It has the potential for an appropriate amount of information to be covered within List of Codename: Kids Next Door episodes, and there is no current assertion for improvement. TTN (talk) 00:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Again, I'm no fan of episode articles, but it's a made-for-TV film rather than a 10 minute episode, and (here's where the real world crap comes in), it's released as its own DVD. This seems like an aas-backwards approach to nominating articles about Kids Next Door, because I think that most of the episodes of that series would have z.e.r.o. notability at all, and I'd vote for deletion on those. The films, however, are heavily promoted by Cartoon Network, kids tend to look forward to them as a "special event", the ratings are higher, and the quality of writing is usually higher as well in order to keep kids in front of the set for more than 10 minutes. It would make more sense to pick the worst of the bunch instead of the best, if the intent is to get rid of something non-notable. Mandsford (talk) 04:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Feature-length film produced for a major television network which has been broadcast. That satisifies notability requirements for its own article. For past precedent (and don't give me that WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS argument as I don't recognize it), see The Man Called Flintstone and Beavis and Butthead Do America. Individual episodes of those shows may not meet Wikipedia's ever-changing standards, but film-length spinoffs do, and that's what Operation: Z.E.R.O. is. 23skidoo (talk) 16:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You do realize that those two films are actual films that were released in theaters, right? That is completely different than a TV/strait to DVD movie, as those receive actual coverage, while a TV movie will receive basic "Fun for the family" mentions in a local newspaper at most. TTN (talk) 20:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

TTN, you brought up something I hadn't considered, which is that direct-to-DVD kids films actually do get the "fun for the family" mentions from parenting magazines, Entertainment Weekly type magazines, and the like, and sometimes they even get reviewed. We live in an age where straight-to-video often ends up in more viewers (and repeat viewings) than a movie theater film. Thus, I don't see it as being a significant difference. Mandsford (talk) 21:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yet, those are never signifcant enough to mention, thus nullifying them. "Fun for the family" mentions are usually just lists of kid friendly specials that provide no actual context. Feel free to add sources to prove me wrong, though. TTN (talk) 21:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep good arguments for notabiity as a released film by major producer. DGG (talk) 19:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.