Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/One Dark Martian

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete due to notability issues, though it's close. If more sources can be located I'm willing to help out with a draft version and will userfy the article for those purposes. lifebaka++ 14:18, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One Dark Martian[edit]

I've declined a speedy request on this, but I'm not sure he warrants a Wikipedia article as he doesn't quite appear to meet WP:MUSIC yet. Bringing it over here for a consensus one way or the other. – iride scent 10:15, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I think he meets the third criterion in WP:MUSIC, having produced a gold album in the UK. --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 10:53, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - if you mean Rewind: Back to the Old School, that was produced by DJ EZ; One Dark Martian just contributed a track to it. – iride scent 10:59, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Delete; the wording on that is somewhat confusing, then. If it doesn't meet WP:MUSIC, it'd be silly to keep it, and I don't think it does meet any other criterion. --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 11:22, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep i think he is a well known garage producer in UK Garage. and has obviously worked hard at what he does. i belive he should be entitled to have a wikipedia page. If your saying he does not come under the catagory for WP:Music Then Wat Does he need to come under? The fact that he has tracks on puregarage shows that he is a producer. 81.153.5.233 (talk) 12:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just being a producer isn't enough. Just saying he's "well known" isn't enough. There're local bands around here that may be "well known" in a very small circle but nowhere else. Back up your claims with some reliable sources (not Puregarage) and I'll reconsider. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 12:41, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok regarding the sources. . . ive not ever done this before. What sources do i need :D 81.153.5.233 (talk) 12:43, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- UKG isnt just a local thing its a major genre in popular music in the UK an odm is one of the main names within that genre. i dont see how i can prove it. Ie His music is played on Londons Kiss100. I dont see how i can prove that though. [ http://www.sfbg.com/40/10/noise/marke.html ] 81.153.5.233 (talk) 12:51, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I think that when an artist is getting almost weekly airplay on a national radiostation like KISS 100 during a Friday evening, you ARE a respected producer (see: http://www.totalkiss.com/Channels/Music/Music_DJPage.aspx?djId=62). ODM has had several releases over the years (http://www.discogs.com/artist/One+Dark+Martian), is featured on two Pure Garage CDs (also on Pure Garage - Rewind Back To The Old-Skool, disc 4, track 4 (remix) and disc 4, track 25, see http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/3513079/Pure-Garage-Rewind-Back-To-The-Old-Skool/Product.html). If a producer has several tracks on CDs that have sold each over 100.000 copies, is still getting airplay every week by major radiostations, and has original tracks that are being released on vinyl I think you can say that a producer is a top player in a genre. There IS a wikipedia page about DJ EZ, about UK Garage, and personally I think that a page about One Dark Martian would be a great addition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.251.17.118 (talk) 13:57, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ I have Been reading "Wikipedia:Notability (music)" I have noticed that it states "Number 11. Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network". And there's proof of this on One Dark Martian. as stated above his tracks are played weekly on Londons Kiss100. 81.153.5.233 (talk) 14:55, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't vote more than once. Also, Discogs, play.com, and Totalkiss aren't much more than directories. If you have a non-trivial coverage of him, like say a biography or a news article about him, then add it. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 15:08, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You realize, of course, that as an IP he doesn't get to actually vote, right? --Falcon Darkstar Kirtaran (talk) 05:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - You're thinking of RFA; IPs are perfectly free to comment at AfDs – iride scent 15:34, 7 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - I couldn't see how this met WP:MUSIC yesterday, and I still can't. -- role^player 15:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Interview with One Dark Martian http://2step.ru/articles/index.html?20 81.153.5.233 (talk) 15:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes thank you for providing that link, it is also linked in the article and I did read it yesterday. One problem though is that at no point does it say who he is or what he's achieved, it's just an interview about productions. As a reference it does nothing to support his claim to notability. Sorry. -- role^player 15:36, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as stated in the WP:MUSIC and i quote: (10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article.)) ODM has been included on 2 compilation CD's with a total of 3 tracks, both CD's are major releases in the UK, put out by a major label (Warner) and have both become gold selling cds. i think that ODM does meet one of the criteria. also, to add, ODM has been in the official UK Garage chart that is run on BBC 1Xtra with his 12" release of Always Be There in 2004. There is no way to prove this online because the charts are updated weekly and there is no back dated chart for this length of time. however, the recent chart can be found here [1]- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onemartian (talk • contribs) 16:18, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 15:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ I think this should be kept he is a well respected UK Garage producer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.5.233 (talk) 13:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.