Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olivia and Ava White
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The result was keep. With multiple appearances, and a young age at which to get a contract, they meet WP:BIO. 17:07, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Olivia and Ava White[edit]
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Unfortunately, these twins simply are not notable yet. Searches for each of their names return no substantial notability evidence. See: [1] and [2]. Delete. Lawrence Cohen 18:54, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Delete as per nom and common sense. RMHED (talk) 21:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep I did a google search and got several results. They have starred in several television shows which has met keep criteria for other AfD's. [3]. Olivia and Ava are currently contract players on Days of our Lives which is far more notable than what "kept" the Ashlee Holland article. CelticGreen (talk) 00:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you share the links and evidence of notability you found? Being contracted to a TV show isn't evidence of notability. Lawrence Cohen 00:11, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not what has been decided in the past. Ashlee Holland was kept because of that. Her win on IWBASS gave her a contract and she got to keep her page. As for Olivia and Ava, you have to google them together. Here's the search results I got [4] CelticGreen (talk) 00:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Additional links that prove notability [5] Quote: Ava, along with her twin sister Olivia, is part of the youngest set of twins to be offered a contract for a daytime soap opera. Out of all the young children on soaps, they hold the distinction of being the youngest ever offered a contract. That's notable if you ask me. Yes, the article needs expansion, but it meets requirements to keep. CelticGreen (talk) 00:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That is still awfully short on being notable, given their age and lack of additional independent coverage. Lawrence Cohen 00:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- There were 300,000 hits on Google. Just because the article needs expanding doesn't mean it needs to be deleted. I found external links using the correct search terms. They starred in What about Brian, star currently on contract on Days of our Lives, and have other credits including Veronica Mars and Ghost Whisperer. Your search was limited which caused you to erroneously assume they were not notable. A search of their names without limitations yield a far larger result.CelticGreen (talk) 00:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Searching for their names without "quotes" yields a tremendous number of unrelated hits. Lawrence Cohen 00:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I search my way, you search yours. Regardless, I've stated my case and this is getting redundant. Their (google's) first pages include solely references to Olivia and Ava, together like the Olsen Twins, not individual. The article is also not about the individuals but the pair. Your search was flawed searching only one name and adding Days of our Lives. My search yielded what it did. Either way, I've said the last of this as at this time anything more will only be redundancy upon redundancy. CelticGreen (talk) 00:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Searching for their names without "quotes" yields a tremendous number of unrelated hits. Lawrence Cohen 00:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- There were 300,000 hits on Google. Just because the article needs expanding doesn't mean it needs to be deleted. I found external links using the correct search terms. They starred in What about Brian, star currently on contract on Days of our Lives, and have other credits including Veronica Mars and Ghost Whisperer. Your search was limited which caused you to erroneously assume they were not notable. A search of their names without limitations yield a far larger result.CelticGreen (talk) 00:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That is still awfully short on being notable, given their age and lack of additional independent coverage. Lawrence Cohen 00:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Additional links that prove notability [5] Quote: Ava, along with her twin sister Olivia, is part of the youngest set of twins to be offered a contract for a daytime soap opera. Out of all the young children on soaps, they hold the distinction of being the youngest ever offered a contract. That's notable if you ask me. Yes, the article needs expansion, but it meets requirements to keep. CelticGreen (talk) 00:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not what has been decided in the past. Ashlee Holland was kept because of that. Her win on IWBASS gave her a contract and she got to keep her page. As for Olivia and Ava, you have to google them together. Here's the search results I got [4] CelticGreen (talk) 00:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep they have multiple television roles, a noted distinction of being on contract at a very young age, and a search does pull information to external sources including IMDB. IrishLass (talk) 18:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - They're notable. Tiptopper (talk) 01:44, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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