Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nu gaze (3rd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Ryan Postlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 23:35, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nu gaze[edit]

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Completing nomination for BROBABOT, whose rationale was posted on the talk page and is included verbatim below. On the merits, I make no recommendation. UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 13:43, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least this article needs to be retitled, if not deleted. "Nu Gaze" hearkens back to terms like "Nu Metal". What's more, the entire concept of "Nu Gaze" bands seem to be the figment of someone's imaginations. The vast majority of these bands are heavily influenced by shoegaze, but are what most people would describe as simply indie. This is not a distinguishible musical movement in any way shape or form!!!!!!!!BROBABOT (talk) 09:22, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Evano1van(எவனோ ஓருவன்) 14:09, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Still needs cleaning up but still should stay per arguments from all the prior AfDs. --Michig (talk) 06:17, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I'm concerned there are no valid arguments on the prior AfDs. Any investigation of the sourcing on this article will reveal that NONE of the links refer to "Nu Gaze" as a larger movement. What's more, none of the bands listed in this article are part of an discernable "scene", but are more of a reflection of where independent music is at in the 21st century (fragmented and drawing inspiration from every genre of popular music imaginable.) The bands listed here are seperated by both time and space, and are in no way indicative of any cohesive or conscious musical movement (to put it concisely: they have nothing to do with each other.) The very existence of this article implies that "Nu Gaze" is a scene analogous to The Scene That Celebrates Itself, which even a cursory reading of the two articles will reveal is simply not the case. At the very minimum, the name of the article should be changed to "Shoegaze Revival" (i.e. Post-punk revival) to reflect its broadly defined parameters.BROBABOT (talk) 09:24, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The sources within the article are not the issue, nor is the question of whether this is a cohesive musical movement. There are many sources that refer to this genre/subgenre, and the article should retain the title that is the most common term used. --Michig (talk) 17:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 19:56, 13 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar · · 22:12, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.