Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Noelle North

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Tan ǀ 39 23:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Noelle North

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There are some passing mentions in a few WP:RS/WP:V secondary sources, but no real significant discussion whatsoever after searching in multiple database archives. Most hits in news archives simply listed her name and the character she voiced, no discussion or any other info at all beyond one line or less. Recommend deletion as there isn't really anything relevant to merge to at this point. Cirt (talk) 04:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

• leave this article up, but include the references to her YOU TUBE performance keeping children from entering a Subway sandwich shop. -- a shop she doesn't own. videos of actions speak louder than words — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.139.27.218 (talk)

• An IP blanked the Afd and replaced it with the above quote. Fixed. Ten Pound Hammer Farfel and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells• Otter chirps)} 05:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

• Delete Doesn't meet the general notability guideline of coverage in reliable third-party sources. Also, to the above IP: YouTube is never a reliable source. Ten Pound Hammer Farfel and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells• Otter chirps)} 05:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
• Delete This is typical of the majority of voice actors who aren't widely credited or written about. Nothing that establishes distinct notability. Wildhartlivie (talk) 05:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - One of the seven gummies of Gummi Glen! Actually tho she may barely meet Wikipedia:Notability (people) and other than the current spike which will blow over there is little reason to delete. --Justallofthem (talk) 06:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
• Delete - Nothing notable about this person aside from her actions in LA, when that gets picked up in some other source then the article can be re-created. Felixmeister (talk) 12:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:50, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
• Keep - she has had significant voice roles in multiple notable television shows. I won't get into the "cult" following aspect of WP:entertainer ;) DigitalC (talk) 23:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Per WP:PEOPLE: A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. -- Can this be demonstrated for this individual? I do not think so. Cirt (talk) 02:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Please see WP:ENTERTAINER. Different criteria that she could arguably meet. --Justallofthem (talk) 04:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Does not get around the lack of significant discussion in secondary WP:RS/WP:V sources. Cirt (talk) 04:35, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Point being that "significant discussion . . ." is not a requirement of WP:ENTERTAINER. --Justallofthem (talk) 13:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Still doesn't change the fact that she doesn't meet the reqs for WP:ENTERTAINER with or without significant discussion. Felixmeister (talk) 13:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

That could go either way, IMO. --Justallofthem (talk) 15:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Actors, comedians, opinion makers, models, and television personalities:

• Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television, stage performances, and other productions.

- Doesn't satisfy this, voice actors are by their nature far less visible in the public's mind than flesh and blood actors. Who voices of a character generally becomes noteable only if that actor is already established as a flesh and blood actor, unless they have voiced multiple characters within an extremely popular cartoon that has had it's own noteable influence on pop culture eg: Simpsons then there is no reason to include them in there own article. imdb is a better place for completeness of cast listings.

• Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following.

- I think we'll avoid this req, don't you?

• Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment.

- Eg Mel Blanc. doesn't meet this. Felixmeister (talk) 21:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

• Delete Article fails to meet WP:ENTERTAINER and Wikipedia:Notability (people). She may have notability within scientology, but is not notable outside that little group.--Fahrenheit451 (talk) 00:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
• Delete I'd never heard of her prior to the YouTube video. If this article is to be kept then the reference to the incident involving her preventing children from entering Subway, as recorded on YouTube, has to stay too as it is that which has contributed most to her recent notoriety; the fact this is a matter for discussion demonstrates that.Dire13 (talk) 20:52, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

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