Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Niagara Therapy

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The result was delete. with additional thanks to Jytdog for going to the library and researching this thoroughly. Damn. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:15, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Niagara Therapy[edit]

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This thing is horrible and fails GNG by about 10 miles; I just lost an hour of my life at the library looking for sources with significant discussion of the company per se and found only a few - not enough to tell the story of this company in WP.

Here is what I have been able to gather. This company was apparently started back in the US in the late 1940s. They sold vibrating chairs and other stuff. They apparently had some "fairyland" marketing thing for kids in the 1950s. The founder died in the 1960s in some accident in Ireland (tiny obit in the Chicago Tribune) and then a guy named Michael Riley took over and in 1988 he or somebody sold the company to an entity called "Northstar International Inc.", which did what i think was a reverse merger in Florida and apparently got on NASDAQ for awhile as "Niagara Corp." (not the steel company), but I can't find any sign of the company after that. Anyway there is no sign of a US presence now, or of what happened to them. There have been a great number of subsidiaries and shell companies etc. There are apparently independent companies in each of the UK and Australia that have ~some~ unidentifiable relationship with the original company and if you look at the infobox you will see a confused mishmash of information about the UK company and the Australian company. Their sales people appear to get in trouble for selling old people very expensive massage chairs. That is all I can tell you.

The current "article" is about 80% sourced to company websites (I cleaned most, not all of them out, and it looked like this) and it has been getting edited by people who keep adding more bad content that is badly sourced. See also SNOW deletion discussion here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cycloidal vibration technology (this is what they hype as the "magic" in their vibrating chairs)

This too should be a SNOW delete. There is no way to write an NPOV article about this company. Jytdog (talk) 04:20, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete This article is a clear attempt by a company to write its own page in order to bring legitimacy to what appears to be some vibrating chairs and beds. As per Jytdog's analysis the article is sourced from the company's own deliberately obfuscating heirarchy of companies, who have also been found to sponsor their own quasi 'medical' research. I have spent some time in the past attempting to bring sources to this article and all of them were negative. Consequently I spent the next couple of months watching editors with a conflict of interest or paid coming along to remove it from what they perceive to be their advertisement. I'm sick of watching it. Jytdog is correct, the Fairyland concept was back in the 50s and it now appears to be a way for the company to bring positive publicity by donating play equipment to specialist schools which are state run anyway. This whole page and the distastful editing of the presumably paid editors falls way below what Wikipedia should be. It should also be noted that it doesn't stand in isolation, there are several pages being edited by similar (or possibly the same) company attempting to lend legitimacy to the vibrating beds, pads and chairs industry. I brought some of them to the editors over at Wikipedia project medicine who have suggested a new page on the subject so that all those promotional pages can be deleted en masse. No question, this page shouldn't be here. Mramoeba (talk) 10:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The article contains nothing that establishes notability. It references the subject's website as primary reference. It obviously fails WP:GNG.--Clean-up-wiki-guy (talk) 22:04, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete A lack of high quality sources to support notability. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:49, 10 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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