Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nexus 7 (2nd generation)

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Nexus 7 (2nd generation)[edit]

The result was Speedy keep. Original nomination moot. (non-admin closure). Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 14:43, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Adds nothing beyond what's said here. Citing WP:CRYSTAL, "While Wikipedia includes up-to-date knowledge about newly revealed products, short articles that consist only of product announcement information are not appropriate. Until such time that more encyclopedic knowledge about the product can be verified, product announcements should be merged to a larger topic (such as an article about the creator(s), a series of products, or a previous product) if applicable." This doesn't need a separate article. uKER (talk) 17:42, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Product has been officially announced and details of its specs/features/availability are all available from reliable sources. Admittedly the current references are fairly rumor-y but that will get fixed as the article develops. —dgies^t_c 20:15, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Specs and features are already in the article. Availability will probably not take more than one line. Does this really need to be a separate article? --uKER (talk) 21:03, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Product differs from linked article and what was speculation about release of a successor on 1st generation should be removed after 2nd generation article is complete. Agree that it is worded currently as rumor-y but official specs have just been released withing the past few hours and will be added/checked ASAP as article is completed. Also, for precedence, see iPad (3rd Generation)—bluebanzai^t_c 2032, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

What speculation are you talking about? The section on the new revision in the Nexus 7 article was written by myself, and while it's written in future tense (being an unreleased product), there's reliable sources cited for every single piece of information. Now, this attempted article presents that VERY SAME single paragraph of information, and an additional copy/pasted paragraph from the Google Nexus article, for the sake of puffing things up. As long as the available information isn't enough to be a bloat to the Nexus 7 article, this does not need to be more than a section there. --uKER (talk) 20:46, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to me we should fix the duplication by moving your text into the new article. —dgies^t_c 21:54, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: There are numerous examples of precedence of every generation of technological devices receiving their own article. As information comes out, reviews come in, etc - the second generation article will expand significantly. Ultimately, using the iPad as precedence, it would seem prudent to create a Google Nexus page once more Nexus branded products are released, giving information on the entire line, such as the iPad article does (although in my opinion, the infobox on the iPad page is unnecessarily lengthy...listing the specs for every iteration of the iPad), and then have pages for each generation of the Nexus line, as the N10 is expected to receive a refresh as well. This would be something for the future, however. For now, this article segregates the information about the generations well enough to keep it. Alternatively (and maybe more reasonable - albeit against established precedence), you could create a single page and separate generations of the device in a manner similar to what the WikiProject Automobiles has established throughout their project - Chevrolet Malibu as an example with separate sections and info boxes for each iteration. Perhaps you'd be interested in spearheading this uKER, if you'd like, now that official information has been released on specs, etc. --Slazenger (Contact Me) 21:59, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Again, the specs are already detailed and sourced. I did it myself. The thing is, other than reception information, I don't see what else could be said about the device, and I don't see this article growing anywhere over three paragraphs. Once AFD is resolved, if the article stays (which it seems it will), I'll just unsubscribe from the page, sit it out and see where things go. Let's just say I've been pleased with the results when doing this. :) --uKER (talk) 02:42, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Lots of reliable sources. --Pmsyyz (talk) 04:56, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The device will be available to the public in five days. Why would this need to be deleted? It would make sense to have a general page for the Nexus 7 line. Then one page for the 1st generation, and one for the 2nd. Or else things become too confusing. An always up to date encyclopedia should not be confusing .Very similar to iPad and iPad (1st generation) and so on. The Nexus 7 (1st generation) has its own page. This should too.
Secret Agent Julio (My Talk Page)
05:17, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.