Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New York City Police Department Housing Bureau

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I'm going to keep this for now based on User:Necrothesp's comment. PLEASE discuss mergers and such on the talk page and proceed accordingly. Thanks everyone for participating and assuming good faith. Missvain (talk) 18:34, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New York City Police Department Housing Bureau[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG. Article reads in a very promotional manner, even kindly providing a link to official New York City crime statistics. References are all dead links or primary sources from the New York City government.

The article details a division of the New York City Police Department that is a direct successor to the slightly-more-notable-yet-still-lacks-proper-page-references New York City Housing Authority Police Department, which is also pretty unprofessionally written and is probably also going to be on AfD some time soon. The division isn't really that much anyways; they're literally just the Patrol Services Bureau, albeit assigned to housing projects. There isn't a lot of news about it either; all I can find are crimes they investigated, officers from the bureau who got into trouble, or things that just refer to the Patrol Services Bureau and Transit Bureau. AdoTang (talk) 18:00, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2021 April 7. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 18:15, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:20, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 18:20, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Significant branch of a major police force. Plenty of sources available. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:13, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are? Because from what I see, the page only has two remaining primary sources that are outdated. Also, I'm not sure how a regular patrol division of the NYPD assigned to nine areas is "significant" to the likes of, say, the New York City Police Department Emergency Service Unit, but okay. AdoTang (talk) 12:34, 8 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There are other sources. They are covered in the New York Times, and even scholarly articles. I know it looks confusing because the sources are outdated (just dealt with another topic earlier for the same reason) but it's a legit keep. Just needs to be updated. Megtetg34 (talk) 04:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to New York City Police Department. There is no reason to create articles on sub-bureaus of any city police department, particularly ones without indepth coverage.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:41, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Even one with 35,000 officers?! Hardly your average police department. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:02, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. per Necrothesp. Megtetg34 (talk) 04:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 08:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 11:41, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:17, 23 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to New York City Police Department. Couldn't find sufficient evidence of notability for it's own article. Whatever the outcome of the discussion is, I think the list of police areas should be removed as per WP:NOTDIRECTORY. Suonii180 (talk) 11:00, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Alternative proposal - merge all current short articles on NYPD bureaus (e.g. New York City Police Department Transportation Bureau, New York City Police Department Counterterrorism Bureau) to a new article at New York City Police Department bureaus. There are several articles comparable to this one, and they would fit well together under one title without bloating the already-lengthy article on the NYPD as a whole. BD2412 T 04:36, 29 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.