Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Indian Ridge Museum

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Adding content about the "old" Indian Ridge Museum, here or in a different article, can be discussed on the talk page. (non-admin closure) power~enwiki (π, ν) 06:03, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New Indian Ridge Museum[edit]

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Lack of notability, verifiability, and reliable sources. Fails WP:V as there is very little mention of this museum in mainstream sources. There do appear to be local news articles about the founder and the museum, but this does not qualify as significant coverage per WP:GNG. Furthermore, it appears the article has a great deal of material that is unsourced and likely written by an individual with a personal connection to the topic. LittleT889 (talk) 02:51, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Museums and libraries-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Ohio-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 04:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The current article is a bit long and could be tagged to be edited down. As a museum and historic site (although not listed on the National Register of Historic Places) I think we want to have an article on this topic. It is a tourist attraction presumably, and will have coverage in guidebooks, newspapers, etc. --Doncram (talk) 20:06, 15 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment My problem right now is the lack of relevant references. This museum opened in 2000 yet none of the references are anywhere near that year so I don't see examples of the article subject itself being notable yet. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 12:48, 16 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment (tend towards keep) -- Publicly open museums are normally notable. A lack of citations is not a reason for deletion, unless the whole thing is original research, essentially a hoax. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:38, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- It is original research. First edit summary says "Created Page, more edits will come as I talk more with Curator". LittleT889 (talk) 02:36, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The old "Indian Ridge Museum" received numerous write-ups in local papers, such as here. If the article were about that museum, I might !vote "keep" but I'm not sure. As it is, the "new" museum seems a bit promotional. Particularly, given [Vietzen's ongoing effort to re-collect the items in that museum http://www.chroniclet.com/Local-News/2017/03/29/Vietzen-home-now-history.html]. That said, I don't see promotional issues with this page to be strong enough to !vote delete. If kept, the article should be greatly paired down, as others have suggested, to remove OR. Smmurphy^(Talk) 15:39, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly there can be one article on "Indian Ridge Museum", covering new and old ones, so the availability of sources on the old one (though not accessible by me) seems to make notability threshold met more clearly. I !voted "Keep" above. --Doncram (talk) 21:30, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Doncram: If you are interested in adding to the wikipedia page, I can make clippings of the newspaper articles for you to use - just let me know. Also, do consider checking out the resources at WP:TWL, which gives free access to a number of partner databases including newspapers.com and newspaperarchives.com. Smmurphy^(Talk) 01:24, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Museums are generally notable. While this article is a mess right now, I think the sources are sufficient to meet GNG. No prejudice against moving to Indian Ridge Museum and merge the old and new. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 16:01, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.