Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natural (band)
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 04:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Natural (band)[edit]
Seems like an elaborate hoax to me, but at the very least violates W:BAND and W:Verifiability Mikeliveshere 01:05, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Content is hopelessly unencyclopaedic but the band is real, and did release singles that charted (hence meets notability guideline). I actually remember seeing TV ads for the album at around the time in question. My vote would be to rewrite the article as a stub and rebuild it. Orderinchaos78 01:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- My Google senses must be off. I've been looking for hours and can't find much on this. I've found a listing of some songs by Marc Terenzi that made the Swedish charts, but nothing attributed to this band outside of mirror and myspaces. I'm not disagreeing, but I'm wondering why I can't find any of these things. :) Mikeliveshere 02:16, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The RIAA's official website notes they got a Gold single in the US, plus they had a No.1 single and No.2 album in Germany in 2004 (noted on reasonably reputable charting sources). There's several claims about a multi-city sell-out tour in the US but I can't find any independent confirmation of that. I've completely rewritten the discography section just now (note I had nothing to do with the original article) and provided refs to the above, but I'll let others decide what sections of the prose should be removed (IMO - most of it). Orderinchaos78 02:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for all your help. I guess I'm just always wary of pages that include phrases like "It seems there's nothing on the web about X" especially when that seems to be true. :) Mikeliveshere 04:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Hope Im allowed to write here; if not please forgive me Im only aware of how to write articles not the other workings of this site :p. Anyways Im the one who started this page and no its not a hoax. The history is similar to what is described: they were one of Lou's last 'successful' boybands and there biggest hit in America, Germany, Malaysia, and Japan was 'Put your arms around me' in 2000 and 2001. They had a lot of success in Germany (see German page) but didnt take off much here. They charted in the German top 20 for most of their career and the band ended in 2004 again as described. Marc Terenzi went on to marry Sarah Connor (German Britney Spears if you will) and hes charted in the top 50 himself. Maybe my tone wasnt right but the whole article is fact. That much I can say. Many of the links are long gone...Lou deleted their website (naturalofficialsite.com) which usuing the wayback machiene you can see (http://web.archive.org/web/20010509141202/http://www.naturalofficialsite.com/) and if you check amazon their CDs are listed especially on amazon.de. As for the tour in the US I dont know if it sold out but they did tour with the Monkess and partner with Claires as Claire's site still has the press release (http://www.clairestores.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=68915&p=irol-newsArchives2001). Thanks. User:Thegingerone
- Anyone's allowed to write on an AFD - that's the whole point of it. :) Thanks for your contribution - the above verification re Claire's would be useful to the section of the article dealing with that partnership. Orderinchaos78 07:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Hope Im allowed to write here; if not please forgive me Im only aware of how to write articles not the other workings of this site :p. Anyways Im the one who started this page and no its not a hoax. The history is similar to what is described: they were one of Lou's last 'successful' boybands and there biggest hit in America, Germany, Malaysia, and Japan was 'Put your arms around me' in 2000 and 2001. They had a lot of success in Germany (see German page) but didnt take off much here. They charted in the German top 20 for most of their career and the band ended in 2004 again as described. Marc Terenzi went on to marry Sarah Connor (German Britney Spears if you will) and hes charted in the top 50 himself. Maybe my tone wasnt right but the whole article is fact. That much I can say. Many of the links are long gone...Lou deleted their website (naturalofficialsite.com) which usuing the wayback machiene you can see (http://web.archive.org/web/20010509141202/http://www.naturalofficialsite.com/) and if you check amazon their CDs are listed especially on amazon.de. As for the tour in the US I dont know if it sold out but they did tour with the Monkess and partner with Claires as Claire's site still has the press release (http://www.clairestores.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=68915&p=irol-newsArchives2001). Thanks. User:Thegingerone
- Thanks for all your help. I guess I'm just always wary of pages that include phrases like "It seems there's nothing on the web about X" especially when that seems to be true. :) Mikeliveshere 04:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- The RIAA's official website notes they got a Gold single in the US, plus they had a No.1 single and No.2 album in Germany in 2004 (noted on reasonably reputable charting sources). There's several claims about a multi-city sell-out tour in the US but I can't find any independent confirmation of that. I've completely rewritten the discography section just now (note I had nothing to do with the original article) and provided refs to the above, but I'll let others decide what sections of the prose should be removed (IMO - most of it). Orderinchaos78 02:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- My Google senses must be off. I've been looking for hours and can't find much on this. I've found a listing of some songs by Marc Terenzi that made the Swedish charts, but nothing attributed to this band outside of mirror and myspaces. I'm not disagreeing, but I'm wondering why I can't find any of these things. :) Mikeliveshere 02:16, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep but rewrite. --Duke of Duchess Street 01:54, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep meets WP:NOTE and WP:BAND. Article should be tagged for cleanup. wtfunkymonkey 01:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and wikify. Alex43223 Talk | Contribs | E-mail 07:59, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep n' clean. Bigtop 17:37, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Sections of the articles Marc Terenzi, Ben Bledsoe, Michael 'J' Horn and Michael Johnson (Drummer) may contain elements of the contested text - whoever ends up doing the cleanup should look at these articles also (as far as I can see it's the same paragraph or paragraphs that have been copied in) Orderinchaos78 07:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.