Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Natuagaon

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The result was redirect‎ to Morigaon without prejudice to editors creating a new redirect at Ahaturi Natua Gaon. Redirects are not typically moved. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 03:31, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Natuagaon

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The article does not meet the criteria outlined in WP:GNG (General Notability Guideline) and the place itself lacks sufficient notability. SaurabhSaha 14:16, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: India and Assam. SaurabhSaha 14:16, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 14:30, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

• Weak delete and redirect to Morigaon. But rename the redirect "Ahaturi Natua Gaon"

The 2011 Indian census lists an "Ahaturi Natua Gaon" in the Marigaon subdistrict of the Morigaon district, population: 2951. There is no Natuagaon listed. (Note: the Indian Census page links to a massive Excel spreadsheet with statistics on the 29,395 villages in Assam province. The 48.4 MB file downloads very slowly after several tries)

Google Earth shows a Natuagaon LP School in "Ahaturi Natua Gaon". The Google Earth link shows "Ahaturi Natua Gaon" as just an area about 500m from the edge of Morigaon, the district HQ.

The Wikimapia location link that's the article's one reference leads to a location with no mention of "Natuagaon" that is not in the Morigaon district. (The article specifies "Natuagaon" that is in the Morigaon district.)

If "Ahaturi Natua Gaon" is the "Natuagaon" of this article, then as a census-listed village it might technically qualify as notable per WP:GEOLAND. GEOLAND counts a place as notable even if it doesn't meet WP:GNG if it meets this guidance:

Populated, legally recognized places are typically presumed to be notable, even if their population is very low. Even abandoned places can be notable, because notability encompasses their entire history. Census tracts, Abadi, and other areas not commonly recognized as a place (such as the area in an irrigation district) are not presumed to be notable.

However, I think it better to link to the nearby city, Morigaon unless someone turns up more coverage of this place. Perhaps note in the Morigaon article that "Ahaturi Natua Gaon" is a village on the outskirts.

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 02:57, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Can you simplify the ATD proposed?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:36, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

• Redirect to Morigaon district. This could be a straight-up WP:V deletion, as none of the sources cited on either EN or HI actually mention any place in Assam by this name AFAICT, and no other valid sources come to hand. But redirection seems likely to better serve the user, and more importantly reduces the costs of a mistake in case we're completely wrong. I agree with A. B. that this is appears to be a misspelling or alternative spacing of Natua Gaon, as in Ahaturi Natua Gaon. It doesn't seem to be a very common variant. But given how Marigaon and Morigaon are written it's at least an understandable mistake that can support a redirect.
  I'm sure an expert in the local governments of Assam could sort things out a little better here, and possibly even stub out a decent article on Morigaon's Marigaon circle and each of its 162 villages. But in the meantime we non-experts can only stumble along the best we can. In that spirit I have added a list of the five circles of Morigaon along with a brief mention of Ahaturi Natua Gaon village to the Morigaon district article. (I was going to provide a bit more demographic info but was surprised to find that the census website currently only gives population counts for the district and village levels and leaves the reader to fend for themselves to figure out the totals for the circles/subdistricts.) A systematic treatment of the divisions of Morigaon district is beyond my abilities, but that should at least be enough to allow for a cromulent redirect. -- Visviva (talk) 03:12, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
• Clarifying my proposal above -- in a nutshell:

1. redirect to Morigaon.
2. then move the redirect to "Ahaturi Natua Gaon"

• That's the more common name and likely search target

--A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 11:35, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.