Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nathan Daschle

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. I considered merging with his father's article but the son is only mentioned. -- lucasbfr ^talk 14:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nathan Daschle[edit]

Article should be deleted because subject is not notable at all. He has done nothing of note to merit a biographical entry. His only link to notability is being the son of a former US Senator. Were he not, than he would never have merited an article. -- fdewaele.

Delete: Article lacks notability; and the article is uninteresting. I mean who cares; Whoppee! He's the son of a senator! Definitely needs to be deleted. Meldshal 42 11:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep: His main notability is DGA Executive Director. Not sure if that's a notable position. Also, plenty of ghits too. → AA ^{(talk • contribs)} — 11:52, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: DGA seems to be a significant organization. --Koppany 13:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. DGA may be a significant organization, but "executive director" is not one of the leadership positions in this organization and is not a notable/significant position. No other assertions of notability. Arkyan  ^(talk) 15:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment In Wikipedia a lot of insignificant perons are listed only because they belong to a prominent family or are self-styled stars. Eg. Antonina Czartoryska, was she notable, or her only notability is that she was the daughter of a prince? Nathan is son of Tom, and he at least did something worth to mention. --Koppany 19:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reply There's an established precedent and consensus that nobility = notability. Members of royal families seem to be granted automatic notability here, and proposals to limit that have been rejected. In any case, the "Daschle Family" is not a prominent family, it's a family with one prominent member - Tom. Arkyan  ^(talk) 19:38, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reply I could cite American celebrities and socialites as well. Ex-boyfriends of Paris Hilton etc. --Koppany 19:42, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You could, and then I would argue for their deletion as well. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS applies. Arkyan  ^(talk) 19:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Koppany, we say that notability is not transitive. Being connected to someone notable does not make you notable. In the case of celebrity SOs, sometimes they achieve separate notability, but most often not. Members of royal families, at least in the line of succession or the immediate family of the monarch, are deemed by consensus to have automatic notability. In part this is due to their roles in a constitutional monarchy, i.e. as potential heads of state. --Dhartung | Talk 20:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, not a notable person. DGA does not even provide a bio[1]. Could be notable in future but WP:CRYSTAL applies.--Dhartung | Talk 20:02, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There is not a whole lot of info in this article, so probably I can be fitted into the Tom Daschle article, so merge.22:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)JForget
Merge or redirect to Tom Daschle. The article says 3 things. 2 of them (DGA position and son of Tom) are already in Tom Daschle and the 3rd (his education) can be added. The only notable people in DGA appear to be the governors. http://www.democraticgovernors.org/about lists "Our Current Leadership" (8 governors). Nathan Daschle is not mentioned. He is at http://democraticgovernors.org/about/387/our-staff with the same information (name and title) as the receptionist and interns. PrimeHunter 01:21, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 07:59, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Tom Daschle. Notability is not inherited, and he has not yet done anything deserving of an encyclopedia article. Edison 19:25, 23 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, The only notable information this article provides about him is that he is currently Executive Director of the Democratic Governors Association and he is the son of Tom Daschle. I think mentioning him in those articles is sufficient. --TommyBoy 23:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.