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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Qwaiiplayer (talk) 16:14, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Naseer Sankranthi[edit]

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Promo piece on a non-notable actor/comedian. Sources consist of one article (cited twice, so looks like two separate ones) which may or may not be RS sigcov; two citations of Facebook and one of a YouTube video which doesn't seem to exist; the rest are passing mentions. A search finds nothing of note. By the creating editor's admission in this edit note, the information mostly comes from an interview, which is primary and cannot establish notability.

Of the filmography, only Thatteem Mutteem seems possibly to amount to the sort of significant roles in notable films/shows mentioned in NACTOR, but NACTOR requires multiple productions, not just one. Most of the film work seems to consist of bit parts and support roles, as also mentioned in the article. Hence this fails both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:48, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:48, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:48, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:48, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The videos and facebook mentions in it exists. He is the person who has recieved 2 Kerala State Television awards. So its something great. Not only Thatteem Mutteem, Mammotty film The Priest, Kappela film, are some of the significant role. In the film Swarana Kaduva also he does a supporting role which has several scenes. The programs Laughing Villa, Comedy nights with Pearly Maney, etc. are some of his excellent TV programs. Oru Chiri Iru Chiri Bumper Chiri is a show streaming in Mazhavil Manorama and he is the jude in it. The program is a big hit that every week its videoes released comes in Youtube Trending. So taking that into consideration now this seems to be an important one in Wikipidea. Notability issue is solved by placing his awards, list of movies, interview placed as a reference. The information in this page is mainly taken from the interview given by Naseer Sankranthi to Manorama, which is placed as the reference in the Reference section.
  • Keep There are Wikipedia pages of people who are not as famous as he is, then what is the problem in placing the Wikipedia page. A person who is doing a hit show for 10 years, who have recieved two Kerala State Television Award, who have acted in more than 20-25, who have did many TV shows, films, live shows, whose identity has been accepted by IMDB seems to be very less to be notable??
  • Keep Now I have also added some other important TV programs which were done by him. So you may now decide the notability by considering that too....... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonal Mathew (talk • contribs) 12:43, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: The actor did not had any notable roles other than Thatteem Mutteem until 2016. Since 2016, he did some notable roles in multiple televisions shows and movies. Some examples of these movies are (with good notable roles) Adhyarathri, Swarna Kaduva, Welcome to Central Jail, Isakkinte Ithihasam, Kappela and The Priest. I dont know if there are any other movies in the list as I have only seen these ones. He is also the two times winner of Kerala State Television award. Is that a considerable here? I would also like to show some sources here which might help to establish GNG. [1] [2] [3] [4]. Pillechan (പിള്ളേച്ചനോട് പറ) 19:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kerala-related deletion discussions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:32, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Naseer is a very famous actor of Kerala, thanks to his popular acts in many comedy series, moreover he has won the Kerala State Television award as well.[1] Rajeshbieee (talk) 16:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Being a "very famous actor of Kerala" is not a notability criterion. Nor is having "won the Kerala State Television award". You may be confusing fame (of sorts) with notability. --DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:50, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment - Alright.. WP:ANYBIO says The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times, may be presumed notable. Naseer has won the Kerala State award twice and it matches the WP:ANYBIO point. Rajeshbieee (talk) 13:41, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Filmibeat/Onindia is generally unreliable in my eyes. The only real source I can find is this from the Times of India, and that is literally a 3 paragraph article. — Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 14:26, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment I have now added some more content and more references to the page. Please check it..

References

  1. ^ "State Television Awards announced". The Hindu. 19 September 2020. Retrieved 28 June 2021.

*Delete: It fails WP:ACTOR as their is no lead role. Rest claims like best commedian award is not a big deal, Kerala State Television Award is not very significant. All these local awards are paid [5] it is an interview you can also say gossip, 0% independent. [6] This is an announcement, [7] just a name, not indepth about him. [8] nothing indepth related to him. clearly fails WP:GNG Sonofstar (talk) 08:54, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

    • Comment The Kerala State Television Awards is awarded to honour the people who are working in Television programs in Kerala. It is an initiative taken by the State Government of Kerala. A well versed jury decides the winners and is announced by the Film Welfare Minister of Kerala. The awards are handed over by them itself. So its just not a local award that is paid !!!![9][10]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The "keep" !votes are only weakly policy-based (if at all). Krishnavilasom Bhageerathan Pilla presented some sources which merit discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 14:46, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep The Kerala State Television Award seems to be a notable event in India if we're going by the results of this search, and the actor has appeared in several films and TV shows notable in India. However, they usually seem to be for extra roles rather than major ones, which is especially the case for the films he's in. Additionally, GNews searches only give me results that only mention his name as part of announcements for films, and they're normally from Filmibeat, a source of which I don't know its quality or reliability. The Kerala wins are making me veer away from !voting Delete, but not by a whole lot. 👨x🐱 (talk) 16:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment I have now added some more content and more references to the page. Please check it..
      • The addition of a feature from the newspaper Malayala Manorama that's about him strengths my Keep vote more. On a side note, if you want my opinion on the other sources, most of the Times of India citations are just brief pieces announcing him in films, which do indicate national interest but aren't necessarily SIGCOV, and some of the citation titles (Ref 10 for example) do not match the actual ones of the sources. Additionally I wouldn't use Indiaglitz, as the source has the look of a non-professional spam page, and Vinodadarshan as it is a self-written Blogspot website. 👨x🐱 (talk) 21:16, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I striked my delete vote it is passing WP:ANYBIO as per the Kerala state television award. I analysed this award, this seems to be a genuine government award. The award was given to him based on his excellence in comedy. Every year around 10-15 people get this award as per the category like 1 director, 1 actor, etc. I got the evidence that they have not given awards to any child-related work as the jury was not impressed with the work. It means this is not a paid award. This guy is also passing WP:Basic, wp:nactor as he has a lead role in Thatteem Mutteem and the sources updated till now . Sonofstar (talk) 18:02, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment I have now added some more content and more references to the page. Please check it..
  • Comment I updated my vote to keep from week keep as per the new sources shared. Sonofstar (talk) 08:14, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Notable award winning actor in Malayalam film and Television industry, acted in good number of films as comedian and character actor.

Apart from the references in the article, there are interviews and articles published by major Malayalam sites.

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