Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Narong Kakada

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The result was delete. It is not WP:V that he has played at the senior level for a national team. GNG not met, and FOOTY not verified, therefore by strength of arguments consensus is delete. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 17:22, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Narong Kakada[edit]

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Unsourced BLP. no indication that the subject has ever played in a fully professional league, thereby failing WP:NFOOTY. No indication he passes WP:GNG. Ymblanter (talk) 11:46, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 12:10, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 12:10, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cambodia-related deletion discussions. Icewhiz (talk) 12:10, 24 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - simply fails WP:NFOOTY. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 03:37, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- Kakada has played for the Cambodian national football team in a tier-one international football match. (1). Therefore he meets WP:NFOOTY. Certaintly needs a clean-up though. Tropicanan (talk) 10:12, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 13:31, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - international player, meets WP:NFOOTBALL, needs improving. Giant Snowman 13:35, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - WP:NFOOTY - Given the link Tropicanan provides, he meets WP:NFOOTY. - Taketa (talk) 20:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - It needs a lot of work but its passes WP:NFOOTBALL as he has played in an international match. Not Homura (talk) 01:21, 26 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete ~~Merge to Cambodia national football team, per WP:PAGEDECIDE~~. This article analyzes like all other marginal NFooty: 1 game is just barely scraping by. If we keep a stand-alone article, we will have nothing to write, because there is no significant coverage. All we'll have is his playing stats, and we shouldn't be a collection of players' stats with no other context because that would make WP a football directory and WP is WP:NOTADIRECTORY or an almanac. The only thing out there is routine game reports and passing mentions. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]. ~~So, merge to the national team and he can have a section there.~~ All of the players who barely pass NFooty but have no SIGCOV can be listed there, and we can even include their stats if we want to. Plus, we'll only have page to monitor for vandalism instead of twenty-something. If/when he gets more coverage, the ~~redirect can be turned back into an~~ article can be recreated and we can drop a {main} tag at his section at Cambodia national football team. Leviv ich 01:09, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Cambodia national under-23 football team. Unsure how much can really be merged about a single player. ––Redditaddict69 ^(talk) ^(contribs) 05:05, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, Redditaddict69; I've updated my vote in light of your and others' comments here. Leviv ich 05:49, 7 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:V. The only source is NationalFootballTeams, which as far as I can tell is not a WP:RS. The contact page lists a single person (Benjamin Strack-Zimmermann) as "Responsible for the content of this site". The FAQ page says, " mainly exists because I wanted to have such a site, but nobody was doing it for me". So, this is all WP:UGC. -- RoySmith (talk) 13:19, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There is no consensus regarding NFOOTY, although it leans towards meeting that criteria. However, failing WP:V is a more serious concern. The single source needs to be discussed, if it is indeed unverifiable UGC then the article should be deleted. If the site owner is found to be a reliable source (known expert in the field, etc.) then we're back to NFOOTY, it certainly doesn't appear GNG is met.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:37, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete not adequately verified. The fact that this person comes close to passing our notability guidelines for footballer just goes to show that those guidelines are incredibly flawed and way too broad.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:53, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete fails WP:V. No reliable sourcing. Fails WP:BIO. WP:NFOOTY doesn't apply here. A complete abrogation from wikipedia policies, as described above is unacceptable. scope_creep^Talk 08:33, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete not adequately sourced, significant coverage too. thanks QueerEcofeminist^{"cite! even if you fight"!!!} [they/them/their] 16:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - article about semi-pro footballer who plays for Cambodia's under-23 team. I'm not convinced he actually appeared for Cambodia's senior side (NFT is typically accurate, but I'd like another source to be sure and I can't find a full squad list from the match against Bangladesh anywhere). Also, even if he has appeared in a single international match, there is nothing to suggest this article can be WP:GNG-compliant. As noted above, all online coverage is routine in nature. Jogurney (talk) 21:40, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The article clearly passes the criteria of notability as he played at the senior international level.Shotgun pete 8:10, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
Delete - irrespective of WP:NFOOTY, a biography of a living person must be well sourced with all details easily verifiable. This isn't it. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 10:36, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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