Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nakshatra (filmmaker)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Black Kite (talk) 18:21, 9 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Nakshatra (filmmaker)[edit]
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Non-notable creator of YouTube shorts. While excessively referenced, none of the referenced items are notable enough to help subject meet notability guidelines. Article was previously listed at AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nakshatra(Filmmaker) in a malformed AFD, and was closed with no concensus. | Uncle Milty | talk | 10:56, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I am surprised by this remark of Uncle Milty. Referenced items especially e-newspapers are highly notable. All other sources are independent reliable sources and not self published one. Short films which are not just limited to YouTube but screened worldwide at 'notable' places.Amytrish (talk) 12:06, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for your intervention Uncle Milty I was considering using Twinkle or rollback here. Glad you intervened. Putting it through a discussion again at articles of deletion would be the just way forward. - Casper(talk)
- Please Note Amytrish (talk) As mentioned in Uncle Milty's talk page, the relevant guidelines are located at WP:NOTABILITY and WP:FILMMAKER - Casper(talk) 14:51, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:08, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:08, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:08, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Also it should be noted that the said page speaks about GLBT activism and categorises the user as a GLBT activist. Co wikipedia admins had added the page to the LGBT activist category many times despite being deleted. The said page has personal information to the said living person, which are self pompous. As noted by one of the user's in the page history "despite the mandatory notice that this article is on discussion under the wikipedia debate resolution policy regarding deletion, it was removed". Pure vandalism and breach of Wikipedia Policies - Casper(talk) 15:16, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, If that's the policy of notability then I stand on my citations of this article. I am confident about this article and it's sources. Over to WIki community.
And the point or issue of category type of LGBT activism which Casperis putting here is acceptable. The sources which I have given to this article, do NOT prove the subject an activist. If sources are not saying he is an activist then he is not. Being the creator I'd never put that category here until I have a source which can justify him as an activist. So I welcome this point. Thank you. Amytrish (talk) 16:07, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Significant amount of secondary source coverage. Recipient of Awards, Honors, and Recognition of multiple forms. — Cirt (talk) 04:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The personality in question, Bagwe, Nakshatra had attended the flash mob. I found out that there were many people in it. [1] The sources in the reference to validate the acceptance of this wiki entry, except the publication are privately owned blogs which are now called Online Magazines. To reach an amicable resolution, I would rather request Amytrish (talk) to set up a wikipedia page for the film Logging Out because the film is the real hero that has won the award and it truly deserves a wikipedia page. All the other achievements presented as GLBT activism is something many people in India are associated with and it would be seen as trolling if all of them had a wikipedia page.
Summing it up, my suggestion would be to delete this page and request the user to set one up for LOGGING OUT Smarojitbiz (talk) 06:24, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Also there are some factual changes. For example, a Times Of India Article intending to tell us that Mr. Bagwe had impressed a bollywood actor Anupam Kher to donate 50,000 rupees is noting but misinterpretation. The article reads "Later, I learned that one filmmaker here had made a film called "Logging Out" on a budget of just `3,000. And that made me think. The initial prize money for Best Film was `10,000. I raised that to `50,000 and also, my company plans to sponsor this amount and award every year." [2]. The statement "....THAT MADE ME THINK" has been misinterpreted to state on the Nakshatra (filmmaker) "Impressed with Logging Out actor, Anupam Kher declared a sponsorship of Rs 50,000/- for the following year of KASHISH ." I visited the wikipage KASHISH – Mumbai International Queer Film Festival you could figure that it is a very respectable platform by itself. While yes, the inference one draws is that Logging Out did manage to create an impact and impress the actor, the film festival by itself was of a high stature.
- I also wish to draw your attention to other award winners as mentioned in the page KASHISH . I referenced Onir and find the page Nakshatra (filmmaker) less notable in comparison. I also compared the page Nakshatra (filmmaker) with other film makers who have made GLBT themed films in India Rituparno Ghosh , Tarun Mansukhani, Deepa Mehta, Mira Nair and think that this is indeed not notable enough to have a wikipedia page. I request people in this discussion to click on each of these pages and sub pages and make your own judgement. Smarojitbiz (talk) 07:24, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. As the nom mentioned, the given sources are reliable but they don't establish notability of the subject of this article due to brief, passing mentions, and not in all of them. The subject fails WP:Notability (people) in addition to the article appearing to be some sort of a fan page. There's also been a suspicious amount of socks both involved with the article and here on this discussion, including those defending this article the hardest - reads like a new editor who created a fan page, didn't review the relevant guidelines and is just looking for a way to keep the page alive. MezzoMezzo (talk) 10:10, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per MezzoMezzo. Salih (talk) 15:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
References[edit]
- ^ LEACH, ANNA. "Flashmob celebrates Mumbai Pride". GayStarNews. Retrieved 3 May 2013.
- ^ Prabhakar, Jyoti (1 June 2012). "Anupam Kher sponsors gay film prize". The Times Of India. Retrieved 3 May 2013.
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