Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naira Seyidova

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The result was delete. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 00:19, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Naira Seyidova[edit]

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There are multiple problems with this article about a non-notable singer. There are now one-and-one-half pages, one in draft space, and this fragmentary page in article space. (The lede is missing from the page in article space, as are the discography and filmography. With no discography or filmography, the subject cannot possibly satisfy musical notability or general notability. The draft has been declined twice, and has been rejected, but its originator has now copied a portion of it into article space. The current fragmentary version should be deleted, and the complete draft is not ready either for article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:18, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:18, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Azerbaijan-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:18, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:18, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I have merged the missing content from Draft:Naira Seyidova back into the mainspace page while I await a full history merge, but I do agree that as-is the subject does not currently pass WP:NMUSIC. I would be fine with incubating this page in draftspace until the creator can find reliable sources, but as they are now move warring, the correct procedure is to take the page to AfD as Robert has done. Nathan2055^{talk - contribs} 23:33, 5 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete agree with discussion. Balle010 (talk) 05:49, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Virtually unreferenced (the refbombing supports the few songs mentioned, nothing else) vanity/promo piece; nothing to suggest notability of any kind. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:46, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I think these sources in the article are reliable: CNN Türk [1], Hürriyet [2] [3], Takvim [4], Fanatik [5], Milliyet [6]. So I do not understand the quest of Nathan2055 asking the creator for reliable sources. ~Styyx ^{Talk? ^-^} 08:48, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These are certainly reliable sources. Unfortunately, the latter few are very brief articles. Are there any more lengthy ones? Spiderone 08:59, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, couldn't find anything longer. I'm not sure if Azerbaijani sources exist. Will try to find some. But the Turkish sources are enough for a weak keep. ~Styyx ^{Talk? ^-^} 12:34, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Styyx, did you actually check the content of those references? One of the links took me to a page which doesn't even so much as mention Naira Seyidova. The amount of coverage of her in others varies from one to three sentences, or from two to four sentences if you include statements not about her but about matters indirectly linked to her, such as who wrote the song she has recorded. The things they tell us about her are such things as that she has released a single, that she says that she has played in a film. The amount of content in those references doesn't come within a thousand miles of being enough to show notability, even if we assume that they are all independent sources, which I doubt, because some of them look to me like different paraphrases of the same press release. If those are the best sources that anyone can provide then she really doesn't satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines. However, I also did my own searching for sources, and I found nothing better at all, in any language. I checked the article on her on Azeri Wikipedia, where there is virtually no sourcing at all. The article on her on Turkish Wikipedia contains almost exactly the same references as the English one, so that was no help. If she satisfied our notability criteria then with the amount of searching I have done I would have managed to come up with some sources coming at least somewhere near to satisfying the necessary standards, but I found not a single one. (Incidentally, the Turkish Wikipedia article is also currently at a deletion discussion.) JBW (talk) 22:26, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case anyone is interested, since posting the above message I have discovered that the Turkish Wikipedia article about her is at its second deletion discussion, following a discussion in June which resulted in deletion because of lack of notability, and subsequent re-creation of the article. JBW (talk) 22:36, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to point out similarities between this AfD and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fuat Ergin. Styyx listed a bunch of brief media notices in reliable Turkish publications but with no comment on how robust they were, and some other voters concurred with what Styyx said. But neither Styyx nor the other voters (nor the Admin, disappointingly) acknowledged that a person's coverage in a reliable publication also has to be significant and beyond brief mentions. I have also noticed a lot of recent new articles on Turkish entertainers of dubious notability, in which Styyx and friends will probably do the same if/when those get nominated for deletion. DOOMSDAYER520 | TALK | CONTRIBS 03:30, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Most of those new articles are made by Xəyal Haşımov, including this one. For some reason he made articles about 4-5 people in Az, Tr and En wiki at the same time. Some of them are notable, some not. There are a lot of AfD's in Tr wiki right now. Based on those results I will nominate them here, you can always nominate it yourself if you want to. Also a side note: I don't have friends on Wikipedia. ~Styyx ^{Talk? ^-^} 09:38, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think you mean this one. Its a compilation of news, so you need to scroll down. I made a Gyazo of it. And I'm pretty aware of the content of the sources. ~Styyx ^{Talk? ^-^} 09:24, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 08:54, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - The sources listed by Styyx are in publications that may well be reliable in themselves, but every single one of those mentions are reprints of brief PR notices. Per WP:SIGCOV, notability requires coverage that is reliable and significant. The singer is not covered in the media in any other fashion, indicating that so far she is merely the beneficiary of a promotional blitz by management. Good luck to her as she gets started but she is not yet eligible for a Wikipedia article. DOOMSDAYER520 | TALK | CONTRIBS 03:34, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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