Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Music Is the Weapon
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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 06:03, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Music Is the Weapon[edit]
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Album was first announced in 2015 but never released. According to this June 2017 article at Billboard [1], the magazine concluded that the artist "in fact, might never create an album again" with the artist adding "I shifted my goal to just make singles, because no one really buys our albums." Can therefore conclude that this album was cancelled. No release date or full track list for this album have ever been revealed, and the singles that have trickled out can be described in their own independent articles. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:02, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 20:03, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep Enough high profile music reliable sources have dedicated entire articles around the album to meet the WP:GNG.
- There's more out there too, as far as meeting the GNG goes, though most of their content is redundant to the 4 listed above. Sergecross73 msg me 12:50, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Response - I don't think those sources help, for the following reasons. The Exclaim article (1) announced the "upcoming" album in 2015, but note the Billboard article in my nomination, which said in 2017 that the album will probably never be released. Your DJMag article (2) says the same. Your Billboard and MTV articles (3,4) are from January 2018 and said the album would be released in March 2018, which did not happen. Your sources pretty much reaffirm those in my nomination, showing that an album first announced in 2015 has simply sparked three years of media buzz on when it will be released, if ever. Again, individual songs have trickled out and those can be discussed in their own articles. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 15:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- A release date is not required to meet the GNG. Unreleased/cancelled albums can even have articles if they receive the proper coverage. The sources above demonstrated sustained dedicated coverage from four separate major music journalism outlets across 3 years. That's what is important here. Sergecross73 msg me 16:51, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Point taken, but see also WP:FUTUREALBUM, which states "generally, an album should not have an independent article until its title, track listing and release date have all been publicly confirmed by the artist or their record label." Track listing and release date have never been confirmed because this album has never moved beyond a what-if exercise in the media, even in those major sources. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:53, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Indeed, and generally, I agree with that notion, when all we've got is "Untitled fourth studio album by Major Lazer" or when we've got a title and nothing more than a sentence worth of prose. But it cases like this, when its already been expanded out of stub status, and could be expanded further with the source listed above, and has year spanning dedicated coverage, I tend to associate it more with the Chinese Democracy clause of exceptions cited in the very same FUTUREALBUM. I guess we'll see where it falls for others. Sergecross73 msg me 19:19, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Point taken, but see also WP:FUTUREALBUM, which states "generally, an album should not have an independent article until its title, track listing and release date have all been publicly confirmed by the artist or their record label." Track listing and release date have never been confirmed because this album has never moved beyond a what-if exercise in the media, even in those major sources. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:53, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- A release date is not required to meet the GNG. Unreleased/cancelled albums can even have articles if they receive the proper coverage. The sources above demonstrated sustained dedicated coverage from four separate major music journalism outlets across 3 years. That's what is important here. Sergecross73 msg me 16:51, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
- Response - I don't think those sources help, for the following reasons. The Exclaim article (1) announced the "upcoming" album in 2015, but note the Billboard article in my nomination, which said in 2017 that the album will probably never be released. Your DJMag article (2) says the same. Your Billboard and MTV articles (3,4) are from January 2018 and said the album would be released in March 2018, which did not happen. Your sources pretty much reaffirm those in my nomination, showing that an album first announced in 2015 has simply sparked three years of media buzz on when it will be released, if ever. Again, individual songs have trickled out and those can be discussed in their own articles. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 15:00, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:12, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:12, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 08:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
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