Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Muhammad Tiregar

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Speedily deleted by The Blade of the Northern Lights (non-admin closure) CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:00, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Muhammad Tiregar[edit]

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None of the sources are verifiable, posing an issue. Fails WP:NACTOR as subject did not star in any major or notable films. hiàn 22:08, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 00:21, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 00:21, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (talk) 05:44, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Opposition to removal - Take a look at this page (number of visits).Popular 5.250.13.248 (talk) 09:47, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Wikipedia:Autobiography User:مادین is a sockpuppet of Mohammadtgr (fa:ویکی‌پدیا:درخواست_بازرسی_کاربر/مارس_۲۰۱۸/Mohammadtiregar) SlowManifesto (talk) 13:15, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To stay - Known in many languages of the world (https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Q48396400)46.164.127.141 (talk) 14:30, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
To stay Has a lot of fans on Instagram (Muhammad Tiregar)Actor-wiki-Persian (talk) 14:58, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Note to closing sysop - all IPs and uers that voted here, with the excemption of SlowManifesto have never edited here. I'd suggest paying no mind. hiàn 18:10, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have another round of single-purpose accounts? -The Gnome (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Have you searched for Persian resources? This person has an official website.( http://mohammadtiregar.com/ ) With respect.مادین (talk) 22:40, 10 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And your point is? Persian-language resources are not particularly useful in an English-language, we usually pair other-language sources with English-language sources. And the official website is virtually useless here. hiàn 00:43, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Persian language sources, or any language for that matter, are perfectly acceptable as Wikipedia references. See WP:NONENG. SpinningSpark 02:16, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake. However, would you agree the official website cannot be used? hiàn 02:22, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the key passage: "because this project is in English, English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones when available". -The Gnome (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No evidence of notability in either English or Persian. Refs #1, #3, #4, #5, are the personal website of the subject. Refs #2,#6, #7 (websavar.ir) link to a page that does not appear to contain his name. Ref #8 is an article about famous Western actors such as Bruce Willis and Sylvester Stallone. A blatant deceptive use of a ref. Ref #9 has no usable content. Ref #10 again does not contain his name. SpinningSpark 02:43, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If this person is not an actor, why is he a great visitor? https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-20&pages=Muhammad_Tiregar 5.250.50.193 (talk) 13:42, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article states the subject is an actor, but the article fails the terms of WP:NACTOR. Page visits shouldn't play a huge role in deletion discussions. hiàn 18:07, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, page visits or hits are irrelevant. -The Gnome (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Laughably, page hits were only around 25/day until this AfD opened. Even the most obscure articles get that from bots and wikignomes. So even if page hits were relevant, they would be speaking for non-notable. SpinningSpark 21:17, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@C.Fred: what is your opinion? 5.250.50.193 (talk) 13:42, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Strong delete. Fails WP:GNG; sources mentioned in the article all appear to either be other Wikis or self-published. The claims in the article are either outrageous or fall well short of notability for creative individuals. —C.Fred (talk) 17:28, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as it fails WP:ACTOR. Also, possibly WP:AUTOBIO (see comments by SlowManifesto above). -The Gnome (talk) 20:12, 11 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
contrary Delete The actor has 90,000 followers (Mentioning the source)5.161.98.193 (talk) 12:22, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What is "contrary delete"? If you're against deletion, you could clarify your position with a simple Keep. Take care. -The Gnome (talk) 09:39, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete per G5and as a hoax as this is nothing more than a greatly exaggerated attempt at promo, just like the dozens of other recreations under various names, including on FA Wiki. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:42, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

They're all glocked now, so g5 probably applies. :) CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:47, 14 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.