Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mrs Mac's Cross

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The result was Delete. -- Longhair\^talk 10:39, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mrs Mac's Cross[edit]

This article on a bed of flowers just doesn't seem to meet the notability guidelines, though it does have one source to a 1978 magazine. I can't find anything else. I PRODded the article in December; the PROD was removed with a note that more sources were being gathered. They have not appeared. I tagged the article for notability concerns on January 15th, but this did not elicit more sourcing or evidence of notability. Without access to the source, I can't be sure, but it seems quite likely that the extensive quote utilized in the article exceeds fair use, to boot. Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:55, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 22:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as notable geography per published article and I just did a quick search and found this [1] (under "Sponars Chalet") so the cross still exists (well visible in the Spring) and the article has a picture of it so not like this is a hoax. Sting au Buzz Me... 23:07, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It's not a question of whether it's a hoax, but a question of notability. :) Perhaps shaped flower beds are unusual in that region, but they aren't particularly around here. Good find on the link, but I'm not personally sure this is enough to verify. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 23:20, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Not notable, even locally, and is basically only a cut and paste from another web site (and is presumably a copy of a copyvio of the original article in a defunct magazine) plus a photo.--Grahame (talk) 02:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - notwithstanding the mention in the article on the Alpine Way, the feature is not mentioned in the National Parks and Wildlife site as being a feature in the park. They mention falling down fences in preference as a legacy of the chalet and European settlement. - eg Kosciuszko Road area: Rainbow Lake Walk //3 km, 1 hour, easy // The track begins at a gate on the left side of the road towards Perisher from Sawpit Creek, 1.7 kilometres past Sponar's Chalet. The track winds through snowgrass and snow gums to Rainbow Lake. The lake is a dam which was built to supply water to the Hotel Kosciusko. Sponar's Chalet had been the staff quarters for the hotel which burnt down in 1951. The old fences near a large boulder just before you descend to the lake are a legacy of the period when this area was leased for grazing. from [2] Other searches on daffoldils in the park mention Kiandra cemetery and mining heritage.--Matilda ^talk 04:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Delete, obviously not a hoax, but I'm not sure that this particular flower bed is really all that remarkable. The web source provided only mentions it in a trivial, passing manner. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 04:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Delete Sources mentioning the topic in a trivial manner, do not conform with WP:N. Twenty Years 11:26, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.