Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mr. Review

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The result was no consensus. Spartaz ^Humbug! 07:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Review[edit]

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Non-notable band that fails WP:BAND. Aspects (talk) 16:34, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —Aspects (talk) 16:37, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Three albums on Grover Records and one on Moon Ska Records should be sufficient for criterion #5 of WP:BAND. Unsurprisingly for a Dutch band, most coverage is not in English, e.g. Google News, though there is some coverage from English-language music sites: [1].--Michig (talk) 06:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grover Record is not a major label or one of the more important indie labels, in fact it does not even have a Wikipedia article, so one compilation album on an important indie label does not pass #5 on WP:BAND and In Music We Trust is not a reliable source. Aspects (talk) 17:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whether or not a record label has a Wikipedia article is totally irrelevant. Grover has a long enough history of releasing albums by notable artists (Laurel Aitken, Derrick Morgan, Doreen Shaffer, The Skatalites, Rico Rodriguez, etc.) to be considered important enough for this criterion. It's one of the major modern European ska labels.--Michig (talk) 18:32, 2 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would expect a major independent label to have its own Wikipedia article. Grover not having its own Wikipedia article just furthers my belief that it is not a major independent label. Aspects (talk) 06:24, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are thousands of bands and musicians and hundreds of record labels that I would expect to have articles on Wikipedia, but don't, because WP is still a work in progress and there's lots more work to do. Grover has been around for over a decade with an impressive list of international artists in their catalogue. Would I expect a German ska label to have an article on the English Wikipedia at WP's current stage of development? Probably not.--Michig (talk) 07:30, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment there is Lars, Von (25 February 1999), "Musik für Sonnenblumenträger", taz - die tageszeitung (in German)

"Ska-Party im "Stone": "Mr. Review" dreht auf", Rheinische Post Dinslaken (in German), 28 December 2005 this says -Mr . Review alias Rude And Visser-

Others say things like Rude & Visser aka Mr . Review or Die Band Rude & Visser, besser bekannt unter dem Namen Mr. Review. Are they the same band still?

eg "RUDE & VISER, EL DÍA SIGUIENTE DE MR. REVIEW.", El Periódico de Catalunya (in Spanish), 28 March 2003 duffbeerforme (talk) 09:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:00, 4 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.