Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mpact Girls Clubs

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge with Royal Rangers into Assembly of God youth organizations. The strongest preference in this extended discussion appears to be to merge these two entities of questionable-to-moderate individual notability into a clearly notable supertopic. bd2412 T 12:27, 7 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Mpact Girls Clubs[edit]

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Fails WP:GNG and has no independent sources. No assertion of notability, mere existence is not a reason to have a Wikipedia article. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:47, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Except that there sort of is a sort of presumption of probably notability in the youth organization of a major church like the Assemblies of God when an old page with lousy sourcing has a lede that asserts that it has been around since the 1950s. It's sort of why we suggest running WP:BEFORE.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:18, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 22:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 06:24, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 06:25, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There seems to have been some academic study of them under their previous name of Missionettes. But a quick browse didn't show anything you could call significant coverage. No real claim to notability so far. Matt's talk 12:26, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Concur that there isn't a real significant claim to notability. Looks like it was created more as an advertisement. (Callsignpink (talk) 15:38, 17 August 2017 (UTC))[reply]
Redirect/Merge to Royal Rangers as a reasonable alternative to deletion here. It's something people could reasonably search for, and we should send them to something they'd recognize if we can. No reason to not do so such as it being a BLP. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:36, 18 August 2017 (UTC) Updated: TonyBallioni (talk) 01:52, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The proposed merge of related General Council of the Assemblies of God-related youth programs sounds reasonable; I would be OK with this outcome, and support redirect/merge if other editors want to do it. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:58, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep -- As a youth program of a major denomination, this might merit an article. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:06, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

We can probably assume that they have notability similar to the brother organization Royal Rangers. I just added a search bar to the top of the page using this Club's former, long-time name.E.M.Gregory (talk) 22:43, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

keep quite a few articles in news archives search under "Missionettes". Pentecostal version of the Girl Scouts, articles are stories in local and regional dailies, detailing stuff like Latina Missionettes dedicating a new clubhouse in Tampa (House Becomes Home For Latina Girls Club, Hammett, Yvette C. Tampa Tribune25 Aug 2005 - they seem to have "scrubbed and painted" it themselves), or local club honoring girls who have completed a certain number of merit badges. Both names show up in book searches. Modest bur real notability for this youth organization over many decades.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:04, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And, perhaps, Merge with Royal Rangers to make a single article on something like: Assemblies of God Youth Movements?E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:08, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, WP:HEY I did source the club's founding, mission to articles in major city dailies in New York and Pittsburgh. And I tagged it for PRIMARY & REIMPROVE. Wikipedia:Deletion is not cleanup E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:14, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:49, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'd be fine with a merge to Royal Rangers per E.M.Gregory. Perhaps with a bold move to a title such as Assembly of God youth organizations. Both articles aren't in great shape at all, but I suspect the topic as a whole probably is. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:53, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 02:24, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment editors Bri (me), TonyBallioni and E.M.Gregory are currently in support of merging the General Council of the Assemblies of God-related youth programs articles into one. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:59, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.