Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moon Griffon

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. Davewild (talk) 19:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Moon Griffon

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All the references in this article seem to be either to related facts, not the subject, or are not independent. I don't see any evidence of provable significance. Guy (Help!) 21:24, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

...Keep of course. He is the main statewide talk radio host in Louisiana. I could not find out how many listeners he has for his 2-hour morning daily program. There is no other host in the state who can match his audience. Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
*Analysis, leaning towards keep An editor who I've come across, but is not my friend, told me about this AFD (I presume for a neutral, unbiased analysis). This is a radio announcer which I never heard of but broadcasting is not my expertise. Besides sources which may not be independent, there are 2 independent sources cited in the article, a TV station and a newspaper. The 3 basic criteria seem to be covered [1]. One of the sources lists his broadcast as carried in 10 stations. This increases his notability. AFD discussions tend to shy away from mentioning similar articles that were or were not deleted. However, Michele Marsh is one that I randomly looked up and found to be a WP article. I would favor encouraging improvement of the article, adding information about his background and education. AFD deletes are supposed to be based on notability, not quality of editing, but editing quality can influence decisions. This would be an easier decision if there were more references and more material in the article.Archtransit (talk) 21:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Archtransit, I would have included more material in the article, but I did not have anything else. Whatever else I may have found would have taken a lot of time and involved original research, which causes articles to be rejected. Yes, he is on ten stations, Monroe, Shreveport, Alexandria, Lafayette, Natchez, MS, but I don't have the other five cities. He is statewide, and his associate, Ruth Ulrich, in 2005 interviewed Secretary of the Treasury John Snow on the program. I will add that info. Apparently, the person rejecting this article thinks he is only on the Monroe station, and even if that were his only station, he would still cover the northeast one-fourth of LA.

March 4, 2005 Secretary Snow on Social Security US Treasury Secretary John Snow visits with Ruth Ulrich of the Moon Griffon Show, KMLB, Monroe, LA.

Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

• Weak keep .. The radio stations themselves can be cited. References should not have to be bits of paper. Victuallers (talk) 08:16, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

• Comment. I have included in the article the ten radio stations on which Moon Griffon is broadcast. The opponent of this article seemed to think that Griffon broadcast only in Monroe.

Billy Hathorn (talk) 15:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

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