Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohamed Hossam Eldakak (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. czar 19:51, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Hossam Eldakak[edit]

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Non-notable personal. The article creator created this article about himself. He created it at the first about Mohamed Al-Daqqaq (Egyption actor, born on 1990. Have arwiki article), then he changed the text (WP:AHIJACK) to make it about himself. Please see d:special:diff/1448647491/1448847107 and d:special:diff/1453704112/1462302044. This user already blocked on arwiki since April 2021 due to socking and self-promotion (previous article he wrote about himself on arwiki ar:محمد الصاوي (اعلامي)). Plus he used his socks on enwiki also, like Special:Contributions/Hossam Elsawi and Special:Contributions/Mhossam99 (all of his socks on arwiki here). About the 3 refs used, (2+3) takes about Adel Emam and (1) is general link --Alaa :)..! 21:37, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ping @Discospinster, Mccapra, and Celestina007: from Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mohamed Hossam Eldakak. Hope if you can next time ping me or any active trusted arwiki user(s), as there's many ar.users who try to take advantage of the English Wikipedia community's poor knowledge of Arabic references. Thanks in advance --Alaa :)..! 21:40, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Egypt-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Alaa: thanks for your message. If I’ve understood correctly the actor Mohamed Hosam Eldakak is notable, so if the article content was about him, all would be well. But you’re saying that although there are sources on Dakak, the current content of the article isn’t actually about Dakak but about someone else, who isn’t notable. Have I got that right? Mccapra (talk) 23:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mccapra, @علاء, The main issue in this article is that it was created by a socks user, and contains information without sources, it was altered so many times to fit the socks-self-promoter name, even the references and the current content, it is about Adel Emam, not Mohamed Al-Daqqaq, it is almost a copy of Adel Emam article, and by reviewing Mohamed Al-Daqqaq works credits in the only found source (which is semi self-publish BTW) we can find that it meets WP:BARE, so in conclusion: the article current content is misleading and inaccurate. HitomiAkane (talk) 03:06, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Alaa:@HitomiAkane: during the last deletion discussion I was able to find coverage of the subject at 1, 2 3, and 4. What is your view of these sources please? Regardless of the current content of the article and the fact that various editors have damaged it, is the subject notable or not? If the subject isn’t notable I’m fine with deleting the article. However if the subject is notable, the article needs to be rewritten and protected from vandalism, not deleted. I’ve no idea of the motivation for the behaviours you describe but the fact an article has been hijacked isn’t really a good reason for deleting it. Mccapra (talk) 07:45, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mccapra, Reading 1, 2 3, and 4, we can see that it was writing from a promotional view, unfortunately, I face a lot of fake-paid campaigns from the same sources in arzwiki, I don't say it is the case here but that makes me wonder, and digging more in the subject credits mentioned here, I found that there are a lot of fake credits and the rest, credits him as a co-actor, so bottom line, and in my personal opinion, the subject meets the Wikipedia:Bare notability. HitomiAkane (talk) 09:17, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ok thanks that’s very helpful. If the only sources we can find are promotional then it doesn’t sound like a pass of WP:NACTOR. Mccapra (talk) 21:51, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks HitomiAkane for your clarifications! Hello Mccapra, sorry for late. Please see special:permalink/1030446077, you'll found there's a lot of contradictory information between the article text, the information box, the categories, and also among the article text iyself! so even the article itself before hijacking was unacceptable! --Alaa :)..! 22:04, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete well after all this discussion I guess I need to !vote. Mccapra (talk) 06:35, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Wouldn't mind some further input to try and determine a more solid consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 23:36, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Self-contradictory article. The first sentence says, "Mohamed hossam (Arabic: محمد حسام; born 18 July 2002) is an Egyptian film, television, and stage actor." However, the article later says that he was "one of the most influential Arab public figures in the 1980s and 1990s" -- that is, before he was born. Apparently this article took biographical information regarding someone else and applied it to the wrong person. If the subject really is notable, then someone can re-create the article about him and include only information that is actually about him, not somebody else. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 23:41, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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