Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mobile Barracks of High Command

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The result was keep. Sandstein 13:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mobile Barracks of High Command[edit]

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No sources found and no indication of notability Mccapra (talk) 22:16, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 05:59, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 01:11, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep AFD is not cleanup. There are several instances cited of use of this term in Chinese history, showing notability, but the original editor has neglected to properly cite the article. Thus there is no valid, policy-based reason to delete. (s) User:Buckshot06
Comment Buckshot06 the reason for bringing this to AfD is that it has no sources. If you’ve found sources that’s great. Could you add them in? The reason for nominating this was that I couldn’t find any, but I can’t read Chinese, so if there are Chinese sources I won’t be able to find them. Mccapra (talk) 09:56, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep AfD is not cleanup. You can consult a Chinese speaker on WikiProject China in place of nominating for deletion. Excelse (talk) 18:52, 9 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not notable at all. Sammartinlai (talk) 06:02, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Apart from the nom, none of the "keep" or "delete" !votes are policy-based. Relisting to generate more discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 12:51, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have found two sources through google and added them (I have not searched JSTOR or other academic databases, so there may well be more sources). Both the sources I found have the exact wording of the lead sentence - as they post-date this article, I think they have probably used Wikipedia as a source for an explanation of the Chinese term 'Xing Yuan', as various Xing Yuan (named by place) are mentioned in the articles. I have also tried searching google for "Xing Yuan", but as it can also be a name, a combination of two words, etc, it is not easy. The term does appear to be important in the history of China in this period (though whether it would make more sense to have the Chinese title Xing Yuan or the English meaning of it, I am not sure). Re the orphan status of this article - the article about the four-star army general mentioned would seem an obvious place to have a link - but that article does not seem to mention his status or title of "Director of Mobile Barracks of the Chairman of the National Government Office at Chungking". That article is not well referenced either, and both articles would benefit from attention from someone who is familiar with modern Chinese history and who can read Chinese. Another possibility for links to this article might be one of the articles linked from Republic_of_China_(1912–1949)#Military, but again, it needs someone who knows what they are writing about. RebeccaGreen (talk) 16:44, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 12:53, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There's a fair amount of tertiary sources that provide the origin and historical context of this administrative classification, e.g. [1][2][3][4], and much more historical writing about the stories of particular Xing Yuans, most notably the Beiping Xing Yuan, e.g.[5]. I echo comments above that AFD is not cleanup. Deryck C. 19:12, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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