Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miriam Tolan

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The result was delete. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 03:47, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Miriam Tolan[edit]

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What a bloody waste of time. Clearly non-notable actress: why User:Appable keeps removing my speedy tags is a total mystery. I assume good faith, but am baffled. TheLongTone (talk) 13:25, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: non-notable actress, can't find any reliable sources that go into depth or focus on her as a subject. Regarding speedy deletion: WP:A7 mandates no credible claim of significance which is a lower standard than notability, and is therefore not the appropriate deletion process in this case. Actress played a role in notable film, so has claim to significance, but not notable herself. Appable (talk) 13:29, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, while Tolan does not meet WP:GNG with a season at Second City[1] and a season on the Daily Show[2] she meets WP:ENT #1. Will update the article later today. --Samuel J. Howard (talk) 13:56, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Human3015^TALK 14:46, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Does not meet WP:GNG or WP:BASIC. I found some sources that mention her, but they do not appear to provide significant coverage. WP:ENT is an extension of WP:BASIC, in that WP:ENT can be used to determine possible notability, but WP:ENT alone does not determine it. After WP:BASIC is evaluated and determined to be met, can WP:ENT be used to further determine notability (remember that notability requires verifiable evidence per WP:V). This does not appear to be the case, as this person fails both WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:55, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Tolan meets notability criteria given her work on stage at Second City, on TV in the Daily Show and Late Night with Jimmy Fallon, and in movies such as The Heat, The Dictator and Martin & Orloff. Gfcvoice (talk) 16:11, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If she is notable, why has it not ben possible to come up with any reference ie evidence of anybody actually taking notice of her???? It's not as though the media are not the subject of coverage of even the most evaescent and trivial event.TheLongTone (talk) 13:11, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the sources I cited above, see [3], [4], [5], [6], and [7] --Samuel J. Howard (talk) 13:46, 19 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Samuel J. Howard, the sources you provided above and in your voting statement don't appear to fully assert that this person meets WP:ENT. The sources you provided here and here are reviews that mention the person. The book you provided mentions the person only four times, and doesn't seem to assert her significance in a major television show or movie. The only source that you provided that I felt had some weight was this, but playing a role for one out of sixteen seasons doesn't strike me as playing a "significant role" in WP:ENT. I like that you did some in-depth searching, but I'm still not convinced that this person meets WP:ENT as you stated. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:30, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now and draft and userfy if needed as a compromise as I simply see no convincingly better improvement. SwisterTwister talk 05:42, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —☮JAaron95 ^Talk 16:11, 23 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 05:47, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for now, for analysis by Oshwah Rainbow unicorn (talk) 01:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:42, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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