Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mikuru Asahina

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Dea db eef 23:35, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mikuru Asahina[edit]

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I don't see how this character is notable, the only references are to the fictional work itself. Markus Shedletsky (talk) 19:49, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. --十八 20:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Merge into List of Haruhi Suzumiya characters, along with Kyon, Haruhi Suzumiya (character), Yuki Nagato and Itsuki Koizumi, which is long overdue.--十八 20:45, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yuki Nagato and Haruhi Suzumiya seem a little more notable than the others, more so Haruhi Suzumiya. Markus Shedletsky (talk) 15:29, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2013 April 17. Snotbot t • c » 20:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep have Japanese sources been looked for? I feel that there would be more sources in Japan regarding this popular series. As for more Merges Haruhi and Yuki have third party sources and more potential so I don't know if they would be good to merge. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:05, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep - Right now, the only sources for Mikuru is the show itself. However, given her popularity, especially in Japan, I think she's quite notable. In fact, she could probably be considered one of the catalysts of the current moe craze. The only problem is the lack of sources, but there's probably at least some out there (in Japanese). As for the other Haruhi characters, for me, the least notable would be Koizumi, but Nagato, Kyon and Suzumiya are obviously notable (although their articles need improvement.) Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 16:31, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 01:46, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or merge to List of Haruhi Suzumiya characters: articles should not be kept merely on the presumed existence of secondary sources, but on actual proof of secondary coverage being brought up in the discussion. After a week, the article still hasn't been updated with the coverage other users are convinced must exist...Which means the article still doesn't meet WP:GNG and should be deleted. The article can always be restored later if sufficient coverage is found.Folken de Fanel (talk) 11:24, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I believe that Itsuki Koizumi suffers from much of the same problem as Asahina's article, as such, I'm bundling it with this AfD. As for Nagato, Suzumiya and Kyon, I think they're notable enough, so if anyone else wants them to be merged, a separate discussion should be started. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 19:50, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge/Delete due to current lack of sources; presuming that they exist isn't really good enough. Article can always be restored at a later date when reliable sources are found to exist. Satellizer el Bridget ^ツ 07:21, 28 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Redirecting to List of Haruhi Suzumiya characters 雛鳥 (talk) 12:31, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, czar · · 16:02, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Keep - for some of the same reasons given by other people above. (I don't think merge is right for this)Sophiahounslow (talk) 10:03, 2 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Clicking the Google Scholar link from this discussion surprisingly had some hits. One of them, [1], seems to be an article published in a journal that briefly talks about the character in the context of gender roles in anime. Another, [2], seems to be an article about people wanting to marry cartoon characters . . . it mentions Mikuru repeatedly, but I'm not sure of the exact content of the article. There also is some reliable source coverage of figurines of the character, such as [3]. I'm not sure if any of those sources could be useful in expanding the article, but they are at least sources from outside the franchise itself. Calathan (talk) 04:21, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It would be great if someone who understands Japanese would go through sources here, I know that the series is popular and ongoing in Japan. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:18, 3 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - I noticed that Itsuki Koizumi was inserted in this AFD after the first relist but the article itself was never tagged. Should it be tagged now or is it too late now since its been over a week since the attempt to add?--174.95.111.89 (talk) 03:07, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - I think it was inappropriate to insert Itsuki Koizumi in this AFD after it had been running for a while, so it shouldn't be considered nominated for deletion at all. It can be nominated in a separate discussion, but it was too late to add it to this one. The fact that it was never tagged as being up for deletion is further reason why it shouldn't be considered part of this nomination. I personally didn't even notice it was added since it was added in the middle of the discussion. Calathan (talk) 03:23, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is turning out into a huge mess >.<. I see no consensus for deletion here other than the OP that being said it looks like either Keep or Merge maybe a merge discussion would be better suited here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledgekid87 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.