Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Daly

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus, defaulting to keep. Tan ǀ 39 14:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Daly[edit]

Contested prod. This article has no sources, no proof of passing WP:BIO or WP:MUSIC. El on ka 21:16, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

tough call Would easily be a keep if there were sources, since he seems to have worked with numerous notable artists, as well as being a member of Whiskeytown. Beeblbrox (talk) 21:23, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Therein lies the problem. How do we WP:Verify the information for factual accuracy if there are no sources?. My Google-Fu finds multiple responses to the search "Mike Daly" -wikipedia shows that there are multiple people with the same name - volleyball players, painters, short filmmakers, and a different musician by the same name. Our MD is listed at Major Bob Music as a songwriter. Swisscharts.com lists three Plain White T's songs co-written by someone called Mike Daly, while Allmusic lists a respectable collection of tracks. Googlenews-fu for "Mike Daly" "Whiskeytown" -Wikipedia brings up 59 results]. The article could be a keeper, but those interested in seeing it remain need to show that the article passes the Wikipedia:Reliable Sources policy by using external references to verify the factual accuracy of the information. -- saberwyn 22:07, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral I'd like to see some reliable sources, because what Beeblebrox mentioned and because he released an album on Bar/None Records (which is misspelled in the article). Doc Strange^MailboxLogbook 22:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've tried to shore it up a little and hopefully at least (start to) take care of the sourcing issue. CitiCat^♫ 22:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or more accurately redirect to Whiskeytown based on current version. Three sources are tenuous and don't establish notability as a musician (or anything else really) in my mind. You don't get a wikipage for writing a single book, breaking up a bar fight or a promo piece asserting writing with other artists. Major Bob Music's link is the closest Daly gets to notability, but it's not independent. WLU (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep' I went through and added a number of sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamdaly620 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 14 July 2008
Redirect back to Whiskeytown per WLU, article fails to establish notability as per WP:MUSIC. The references, even the new ones, only mention him in passing, or focus on the fight. Nothing there establishes his individual notability. Esradekan Gibb ^"Talk" 09:43, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Reviewing the new sources, I would still redirect to whiskeytown and the musicians Daly co-wrote songs with get a "co-written with Mike Daly, keyboardist of Whiskeytown". Coverage in each still reads as trivial to me. WLU (talk) 18:13, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tan ǀ 39 23:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

keep per the found sources for verifiability. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 17:45, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, someone's been on a sourcing rampage :-). Would be nice if this ever happened before the AfD!Yobmod (talk) 08:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Coverage is still trivial - Daly is a sideline of the articles, or it's non-third-party sources. A link to the book he's selling on Amazon, his manager's website, CD sales sites. All could easily be covered by a redirect to whiskeytown and a comment in the linked pages "Mike Daly of [[Whiskeytown]]" WLU (talk) 10:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Is this http://www.majorbob.com/writers/current/daly.htm, not a 3rd party source with non-trivial covorage? I can't tell - does he work for them?Yobmod (talk) 12:33, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —Sean Whitton / 13:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.