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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. j⚛e deckertalk 22:24, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mikayla Mendez[edit]

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Fails PORNBIO and the GNG. No nonscene awards, only nominations. No independent, reliable sourcing. Negligible reliably sourced biographical content Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 23:18, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:22, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:23, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:23, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. The phrasing here is a bit misleading; she is merely reported as the first Latina contract performer for one particular porn studio, Wicked Pictures, not for the industry as a whole. The sourcing is not independent/reliable; the relevant references are both touched-up reposts of Wicked Pictures promo material -- and the original press release describes here as their first "full-fledged" Latina contract player, a rather curious bit of phrasing indicating there were previous Latina contract girls at the company, just not of 100% Latin heritage. Note that as of right now, IAFD lists her as born in Burbank, ethnicity Caucasian, nationality/heritage American. As sourced content at Catalina Cruz makes clear, porn industry ethnicity declarations may well reflecting marketing decisions. This looks to have a pretty substantial kayfabe component to it. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 21:23, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
HW, nothing has been misrepresented. Its accurately represented in the article as described by the authors of both sources. As for your analysis of the interview with Catalina Cruz (a primary source at best) on the Lukeisback website, who are kidding with "porn industry ethnicity declarations may well reflecting marketing decisions" when it actually states, "AF: I was doing research before I called you and I found a thread on a forum for The Best Latin Porn stars, you are on the list. So do movie companies call you and ask you to be in their Latina titles? C: Not really." --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 01:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ymblanter (talk) 09:45, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete BLPs must have proper sourcing, Spartaz Humbug! 21:57, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Fails PORNBIO as the nominator states. Fails GNG without non-trivial coverage by independent reliable sources. The three AVN and XBiz citations appear to be reprints of the same Wicked Pictures press release, sharing verbatim whole paragraphs in places. The Luke is Back citation is unreliable. The significance of being the first Latina contract performer at Wicked needs to be acknowledged by an independent source. • Gene93k (talk) 02:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If the press releases were the sources, I could understand the objection, but 2 different industry trade publications are the source. Even if they were a 100% reprint, its still acknowledgement. As for the wording, find me ANY publication that completely rewrites press releases they receive. The realities of the publishing world (mainstream, porn, et.al.) are such that its a standard practice to reprint things like this. If the publication did not think it was newsworthy, they would not print it and its not our purpose to second guess a source or invent any intention behind it. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 17:45, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
At Wicked or for the industry? That's where the confusion seems to be. Its stated in the article that she's the first Latina contract star for Wicked, no claim is made about the industry. Do we know who the actual first Latina (industry) contract star is? --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 18:25, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
If you're arguing that she satisfies criteria 2 of WP:PORNBIO by simply being the first latin contract star for Wicked then I disagree. Morbidthoughts (talk) 22:36, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Per 2 of PornBio, no. In my Keep vote (above) I recommended that she be an exception to the guideline because of the status that her ethnicity gives her with Wicked. Within the logic and confines of WP, Wicked Pictures is a WP:NOTABLE studio, so the unique status she has with regard to that studio should be taken into consideration in an AfD. Obviously opinions/interpretations differ, this is mine. This is with regard in part to my participation and understanding of the WikiProject Countering systemic bias. I am not of Latino descent, but as an Editor I should do what I can to counteract the affect of that on my editing with regard to an article about someone who is. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 21:21, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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