Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michiyo Akaishi

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Singularity 20:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Michiyo Akaishi

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Non-notable manga artist. Of three sources, 2 are 404s and 1 is a user-contributed manga site. Google search reveals mostly author-atributions, a fanfic site or two, and no critical commentary on the artist. Google News has no hits. Even if some of these works of art are notable, notability doesn't transfer. Therefore, proposed for deletion. Mbisanz (talk) 07:35, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete, Keep per further remarks from those who can read enough Japanese to see she has won awards, et al. Collectonian (talk) 22:16, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep. She's won two awards (now documented in the article). I've expanded the article a little, too. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 09:21, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. —···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 09:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletions. —···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 09:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. A quick search on Google convinces me that she is easily sufficiently notable. There seems to be a shortage of English language sources, which is perhaps not surprising, but that has no bearing on notability. I have added some refs to the article based on my search.--Michig (talk) 10:29, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Comment As the first to create this page, I request you stop this useless action early as possible. Michiyo Akaishi isn't an ordinary person, she is a mangaka, and at first she won manga awards. Only this can prove her a famous one. (I've read some of her manga, they're so good.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shishishin (talk • contribs) 12:37, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment I fail to see how being a mangaka makes someone extraordinary, unless you mean in the same way that someone being a McDonald's cashier is extraordinary. JuJube (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Comment The only issue with this article is the lack of secondary sources, but that should be expected given that most of those sources will be in Japanese. Otherwise, the person appears to pass all of the other basic criteria of WP:BIO. --Farix (Talk) 12:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
  • There are now multiple secondary sources for this article. I'm sure more can be found as these only took a few minutes to dig up. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 21:43, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
• strong keep-with two dozen credits to her name, this smells strongly of a bad faith nom, especially with previous comments. Chris (talk) 13:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• I researched it before proposing it here. I don't speak Japanese, but most of the sites I was getting were forums or attribution type things. And it was hitting anything for google news which is (should be?) cross language. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it, but from the creator's comments above, I'm not convinced this wasn't an add by a fan. Maybe it is notable, maybe its not, I wasn't convinced it was, so thats why I brought it here. Thanks Mbisanz (talk) 15:46, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• This is not a bad faith nom. The nominator is correct in that most references for this person are in Japanese, and there were no references at all in the article before I added a bunch. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 21:43, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Keep: Any winner of a major award like the Shogakukan Manga Award is DEFINITELY notable. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:10, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• *muses to self* It's been on my back burner to copy citations for all the Shogakukan, Kodansha, and Media Arts awards to the mentions I added in all the articles for the winners. Guess I should kick that up in the queue. —Quasirandom (talk) 17:15, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Keep per Nihonjoe and edits made after his involvement. Mangas are a major part of Japanese culture and mangakas can sometimes become more than notable. This appears to be such a case. --Blanchardb-^{MeMyEarsMyMouth}-timed 20:35, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Quasirandom. If you don't actually get around to it soon, perhaps you could just watchlist them all and add citations as tags and AfDs occur? --Gwern (contribs) 20:46 15 December 2007 (GMT)

• Since it's pretty much a copy of the citation in the Awards articles, if I'm clicking through to watch, I might as well paste. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:12, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Keep need to find a way to allow one country to define someone as notable and that can then be taken as a fact by other wikipedias. Needs snowballing Victuallers (talk) 23:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

• Part of the problem here was that the article was created with no refs at all, and no claims of notability at all. That has since been addressed. WP:N already takes into account that refs may be in other languages. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 01:17, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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