Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Ventura (entrepreneur)

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The result was redirect to Sub Rosa (company). Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 10:07, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Ventura (entrepreneur)[edit]

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Delete Fail criteria for establishing notability. I note that the article was previously turned down from Articles for Creation by SwisterTwister but author went ahead and created it anyway. Fails WP:CREATIVE and GNG. -- HighKing⁺⁺ 14:26, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. MassiveYR ♠ 16:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. MassiveYR ♠ 16:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:27, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~, same as the subject's company, Sub Rosa (company). Has all appearance of being part of a WP:PROMO walled garden. K.e.coffman (talk) 02:03, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect - the NY Times and GQ sources are more about his apartment than him, the Wired content is written by a third party, and while the Business Insider content is good, the most notable part is still about his agency. I just voted keep for the agency article - perhaps merge some of this info info a section about him there. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 07:55, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades^Godric 03:58, 26 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Merge/redirect to Sub Rosa (company), the company he founded, in lieu of deletion. I agree with TimTempleton's analysis of the sources as being primarily about his apartment or his agency. In my searches for sources, I found "Under the rose with Michael Ventura" from The Huffington Post, but the page says "This post is hosted on the Huffington Post's Contributor platform. Contributors control their own work and post freely to our site. If you need to flag this entry as abusive, send us an email.", which indicates it is self-published so cannot be used to establish notability.
Cunard (talk) 05:26, 27 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
~~Redirect~~ to Sub Rosa (company). If the target article gets deleted, then problem solved. If not, then Wikipedia clearly does not need two articles on these closely related topics. Anything useful can be picked up from the article history. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:45, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -- back to "Delete", since the proposed target article's AfD closed as "No consensus". The founder is even less notable than the company, and his name is unlikely to be a valid search term. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:23, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect , no merge considering the other article's notability was taken into question and no consensus has been achieved to suggest it actually satisfied our policies, the founder is certainly not notable as it's only "best known for 1 company". The current sources only consist of clear announcements, including in such trade publications as AdvertisingAge, BusinessMagazine, BusinessInsider and Wired. Such sources cannot be accepted by WP:Deletion policy; only the minor-est information should be merged, if at all, since again, there's no defined notability here therefore would become undue. SwisterTwister talk 22:17, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Linguist¹ 1 ¹ 17:13, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
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