Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Petros

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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 18:01, 10 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Petros[edit]

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Doesn't pass either WP:NFOOTY or WP:GNG Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 13:32, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 13:32, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 13:32, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 13:32, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete like I said at WT:FOOTY, he doesn't pass WP:NFOOTY as he's played international futsal not (association) football. And doesn't look to pass WP:GNG either. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete per nom. Google search brings up no meaningful results. No debate here. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 13:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 15:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - fails GNG and NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 15:40, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I was trying to work this article out earlier, unfortunately I couldn't see GNG for the English wikipedia. Govvy (talk) 16:00, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Michael Petros is a professional futsal player and coach in Iran. He has previously been a member of the Iranian national futsal team. So this person is famous. Sufficient sources in Persian are also mentioned for the article. Don't delete articles for no apparent reason because it will reduce the credibility of Wikipedia and discourage editors! pournia (talk) 18:04, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It maybe notable on the Farsi wikipedia, but it doesn't seem to be on English. Govvy (talk) 18:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Govvy: I don't think that's how it works – per WP:GNG: "Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language." Macosal (talk) 13:16, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Has anyone who has said this fails WP:GNG actually done any source analysis on the Farsi language references or bothered to do a before search in Farsi? The articles I saw were a bit short or were game coverage but if there's other similar coverage then he's clearly been covered significantly in the role. SportingFlyer T·C 22:58, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

SportingFlyer I assume what they meant was that the notability requirements will be different (probably lower) on Farsi Wikipedia, so it may be notable there but not on English Wikipedia. That was my interpretation of their comment. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:46, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

- I have, and they are all trivial mentions. There aren't enough non-trivial mentions in reliable sources for him to pass GNG, in my opinion. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 23:08, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thank you. There were a couple references which I thought were more than trivial, but I'm not going to fight too hard for it - just noting there are seven references in the article, and that we don't always do a great job of evaluating these types of articles. SportingFlyer T·C 23:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Of the 7 sources provided in the article, only one seems to be non-trivial. But even then, it's just an interview where he speaks about the national team and the futsal goalkeepers in Iran. Only one question is borderline, where he states where and when he was born, and where he studied (a couple of sentences). It's clear that Petros is an important figure in Iranian futsal, but I don't think that he's notable enough to be included on Wikipedia. Nehme₁₄₉₉ (talk) 23:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - As a player, Petros has a history of winning the Iranian Futsal Premier League. Iran Futsal Super League is one of the five most prestigious futsal leagues in the world. pournia (talk) 11:33, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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