Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Jackson's Thriller jacket

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The result was keep. Tone 21:08, 18 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Jackson's Thriller jacket[edit]

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Although this subject has been covered by numerous reliable sources (particularly after it was sold at auction a few years ago), I don't think it has been covered in sufficient detail that it requires its own article.

The jacket was created for the music video for Thriller. The description of the jacket’s design and the intent behind the design is already covered in the Michael Jackson's Thriller (music video) article. Information about legacy and impact on fashion can also be covered there.

Some of the claims in the article are less notable than they appear - for example The buyer, Milton Verret, described the jacket as "the greatest piece of rock and roll memorabilia in history”. Verret is the private citizen who bought the jacket so of course he feels that way. The quote about Jackson’s style in the video mentions the jacket only in passing: "In 'Thriller', Michael's outfit and its stylistic features – the wet-look hairstyle, the ankle-cut jeans and the letter 'M' emblazoned on his jacket – reinforce this meta-textual superimposition of role. If Michael, as the male protagonist, is both boyfriend and star, his female counterpart in the equation of 'romance' is both the girlfriend and at this meta-textual level, the fans.” Etc.

So - definitely notable, but I think the actual notable stuff can be covered in sufficient depth in Michael Jackson's Thriller (music video). The article is already short and a lot of it is filler. (Cause this is filler, filler night…). Popcornduff (talk) 14:23, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Like i said before please see WP:ASZ. Michael Jackson's Thriller Jacket has been subject of numerous books and articles. There is sufficient significant independent coverage in multiple sources to indicate the article pass WP:GNG. The current size of an article is utterly irrelevant when considering whether a subject is notable. Marrying this article and then expanding the section/article to cover all of it would lead to excessive focus on this topic.-- Akhiljaxxn (talk) 17:11, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Michael Jackson's Thriller Jacket has been subject of numerous books and articles"? As far as I know, no one has written a book about this jacket. It's been mentioned in brief in a few. Numerous articles have been written about the auction, but that can be covered in a sentence. No danger of bloating the Thriller article - everything notable about the jacket can be covered in a single paragraph. Popcornduff (talk) 18:42, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Its notoriety speaks for itself. Israell (talk) 07:57, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:05, 14 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.