Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Micah Tawlks

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The result was delete. Vanamonde (Talk) 05:19, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Micah Tawlks[edit]

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO. non-notable. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 16:50, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:52, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:52, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete does not meet the notability for musicians.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:54, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 07:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 14:21, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Thanks for the thoughts, everyone. I oppose the articles for deletion and would argue that this page should be kept, as Tawlks meets the guidelines for notability as outlined in WP:MUSICBIO and WP:COMPOSER. Specifically, point one: "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself." The references of this article contain many non-trivial sources, such as Paste Magazine, Nashville Scene, and Lightning 100.

Point two, he has released "two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels" as producer. Regarding WP:COMPOSER, Tawlks has "credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a notable composition." Naturally, a producer doesn't seem as notable as an artist, but given his roster of collaborations, I would argue that he does meet the notability guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshalxwarren (talk • contribs) 13:20, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lots of references are passing mentions. Looking at them:

Ref 1 is a passing mention all the while moving in the same circles as Micah Tawlks
Ref 2 is a passing mention This time around producers Kevin Dailey (of Civil Twilight) and Micah Tawlks join him
Ref 3 is a passing mention brainchild of producer Micah Tawlks
Ref 4 show in the first track.
Ref 5 Micah Tawlks Engineer
Ref 6 Cold Answer: written by Matthew Perryman Jones & Caitlin Rose/Produced by Micah Tawlks

The rest the references as a producer. Consensus on Wikipedia is that procedures are really not notable. There is a reference on Mother Jones: [1] stated Micah Tawlks, a producer who works with the likes of Matthew Perryman Jones, and Isaaca Byrd, a bassist and backup vocalist for a range of artists, cranked out the bulk of the EP in three weeks USA Today has another passing mention, “‘Giving Up’ was produced by Micah Tawlks and myself On Instagram [2] he has 1600 followers, so no social presence. On Soundcloud [3] he has 42 follower. So he is no musician, he is a producer and he is non-notable. scope_creep^Talk 19:21, 22 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all sources seem to be passing or otherwise trivial mentions, and the person isn't automatically notable just because of who they work with. So, I see nothing here that would make them notable enough for an article. --Adamant1 (talk) 19:23, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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