Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mesfer Al-Qahtani

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 02:28, 31 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mesfer Al-Qahtani[edit]

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Contested PROD.. Different DoB on FIFA site 15 Jan 1984 than the article, can we assume this is the same person? fails WP:GNG JMHamo (talk) 22:53, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as I first found this while searching for orphans and suspected it was not acceptable so I notified GiantSnowman as there was not anything currently suggesting better improvement. SwisterTwister talk 22:57, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 23:49, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - meets NFOOTBALL. My advice to you @Nfitz: would be to find evidence of notability before contesting a PROD, rather than after, to save everyone's time. Giant Snowman 12:24, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

'Comment - the evidence pointing to notability was always in the reference that had been in the article for 5 years, (though not clearly asserted in the text), which made it clear that the player had an appearance for a team in a fully professional league listed in WP:FPL in the 2005 FIFA Club World Championship. I HAD added enough text to the article to make that clear when I removed the Prod (see my edit here [1]); however another user then deleted that text before creating the AFD (quite validly questioning whether the information was for the correct person). I'd also made a very clear edit summary when removing the prod (Remove prod - 3rd place match report from the 2005 FIFA Club World Championship shows he made appearance in 69th minutes against Deportivo Saprissa http://www.fifa.com/clubworldcup/matches/round=47350500/match=47350006/index.html#nosticky) . My advice to you would be to check the references carefully before creating a prod. And also follow WP:AGF and WP:CIVIL rather than launching a personal attack on the person who removes the prof. Nfitz (talk) 14:05, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - No indication that he has played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 00:17, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - meets WP:NFOOTBALL. Page claims that he has been member of three teams that play in the Saudi Premier League listed as fully professional in WP:FPL. These teams are Al-Shabab, Al-Ittihad, and Al-Hilal. While at Ittihad he appeared in the third place match of the 2005 FIFA Club World Championship against Deportivo Saprissa in Yokohama, Japan (match report). It's been suggested that there is no evidence that the player who played in that match, is the same one who later joined Al-Hilal - however a copy of an extensive 2008 newspaper interview appears on Al-Hilal's website. In the interview it mentions his play for both Al-Ittihad, and Al-Hilal in addition to Al-Shabab. A couple of other articles that mention his play for both teams are [2] and [3]. Less reliable sources with discussion of him can also be found, including a mention that he retired in 2009. [4]. Nfitz (talk) 00:43, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - as per Nfitz Spiderone 09:51, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep as per Nfitz, nice work on establishing notability. IgnorantArmies (talk) 11:18, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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